CAPUT II. — 2. Pelagianorum error, justos hic sine peccato reperiri. Argumentum Pelagianorum. Sunt autem quidam inflati utres, spiritu elationis pleni, non magnitudine ingentes, sed superbiae morbo tumentes, ut dicere audeant, inveniri homines absque peccato. Dicunt ergo, justos prorsus in hac vita nullum habere peccatum. Haeretici autem sunt Pelagiani, iidemque Coelestiani, qui hoc dicunt. Et cum responsum illis fuerit, Quid est quod dicitis? Ergo vivit hic homo sine peccato, et non habet omnino ullum peccatum, nec facto, nec verbo, nec cogitatione? Respondent de illo superbiae vento, quo pleni sunt: quem ventum utinam finirent, reflarentur et tacerent, id est, humiles fierent, non elati: respondent, inquam, Prorsus isti homines sancti, fideles Dei, nec facto, nec verbo, nec cogitatione possunt ullum habere peccatum. Et cum eis dicitur, Qui sunt isti justi, qui sine peccato sunt? respondent et dicunt, Tota Ecclesia. Mirari potuissem, si invenirem unum, duos, tres, decem, quot quaerebat Abraham. Abraham enim a quinquaginta usque ad decem descendit (Gen. XVIII, 24-32): tu, haeretice, respondes, et dicis mihi totam Ecclesiam. Unde hoc probas? Probo, inquis. Proba, rogo te. Magnum enim mihi gaudium affers, si docere potueris, totam prorsus Ecclesiam in singulis quibusque fidelibus suis nullum habere peccatum. Probo, inquis. Dic unde? Apostolus loquitur. Quid loquitur Apostolus? Christus, inquit, dilexit Ecclesiam. Audio, et Apostoli verba esse cognosco. Mundans eam lavacro aquae in verbo, ut exhiberet sibi gloriosam Ecclesiam, non habentem maculam aut rugam, aut aliquid hujusmodi (Ephes. V, 25-27). Audivimus de nube magna tonitrua. Nubes enim Dei Apostolus. Verba ista sonuerunt, et tremere nos fecerunt.
Chapter II. — 2. The error of the Pelagians, that the just are found here without sin. The argument of the Pelagians. Now there are certain puffed-up wineskins, full of the wind of self-exaltation, not huge in greatness but swollen with the disease of pride, so that they dare to say that men are found without sin. They say, then, that the just have absolutely no sin in this life. Now those who say this are heretics, the Pelagians, who are also the Coelestians. And when it has been answered them, What is it that you are saying? Does this man then live without sin, and has he no sin at all, neither in deed, nor in word, nor in thought? They answer out of that wind of pride with which they are full: would that they would let go of that wind, be deflated and fall silent, that is, become humble, not exalted! They answer, I say, These holy men, the faithful of God, can have absolutely no sin, neither in deed, nor in word, nor in thought. And when they are asked, Who are these just men who are without sin? they answer and say, The whole Church. I could have marvelled if I were to find one, two, three, ten, as many as Abraham was seeking. For Abraham came down from fifty to ten (Gen. 18:24–32): you, heretic, answer and tell me, the whole Church. Whence do you prove this? I prove it, you say. Prove it, I beg you. For you bring me great joy if you can show that the whole Church, absolutely, in each and every one of her faithful, has no sin. I prove it, you say. Tell me whence. The Apostle speaks. What does the Apostle say? Christ, he says, loved the Church. I hear, and I recognize these to be the words of the Apostle. Cleansing her with the washing of water in the word, that He might present to Himself a glorious Church, having no spot or wrinkle or anything of this kind (Eph. 5:25–27). We have heard great thunders from the cloud. For the Apostle is a cloud of God. These words have sounded, and have made us tremble.
CAPUT III. — 3. Refutantur ab ipsorum de se ipsis professione. Haeretici extra Ecclesiam sunt. Sed dicite nobis, antequam quaeramus quomodo ista verba Apostolus dixerit; dicite, inquam, nobis, utrum vos justi estis, an non. Respondent, Justi sumus. Ergo non habetis peccatum? Per omnes dies, per omnes noctes nihil mali facitis, nihil mali dicitis, nihil mali cogitatis? Non audent dicere, Nihil. Sed quid respondent? Nos quidem peccatores sumus; sed de sanctis loquimur, non de nobis. Hoc vos interrogo: Christiani estis? Non dico, Justi estis? Christiani estis? Non audent negare: Christiani, inquiunt, sumus. Fideles ergo estis? Baptizati estis? Baptizati, inquiunt, sumus. Dimissa sunt vobis cuncta peccata? Dimissa, inquiunt. Quomodo ergo estis peccatores? Sufficit mihi unde vos repellam. Vos christiani estis, baptizati estis, fideles estis, membra Ecclesiae estis, et habetis maculas et rugas? Quomodo ergo est Ecclesia isto tempore sine macula et ruga, cum vos sitis ruga ejus et macula? Aut si non vultis esse Ecclesiam, nisi eam quae sine macula et ruga est, cum rugis vestris et maculis praecidite vos a membris ejus,
Chapter III. — 3. They are refuted by their own profession about themselves. Heretics are outside the Church. But tell us, before we inquire how the Apostle said these words; tell us, I say, whether you are just or not. They answer, We are just. Then you have no sin? Through all the days, through all the nights, you do nothing evil, say nothing evil, think nothing evil? They do not dare to say, Nothing. But what do they answer? We indeed are sinners; but we are speaking of the saints, not of ourselves. This I ask you: Are you Christians? I do not say, Are you just? Are you Christians? They do not dare to deny it: We are Christians, they say. Are you then faithful? Are you baptized? We are baptized, they say. Have all your sins been forgiven you? Forgiven, they say. How then are you sinners? I have enough with which to repel you. You are Christians, you are baptized, you are faithful, you are members of the Church, and you have spots and wrinkles? How then is the Church at this time without spot and wrinkle, when you are her wrinkle and spot? Or if you will not have the Church to be anything but that which is without spot and wrinkle, cut yourselves off, with your wrinkles and spots, from her members,