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Augustine, Sermones 277-283 (Classis III, de Sanctis)

Sermon CCLXXVII

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SERMO CCLXXVII. In festo martyris Vincentii, IV. In quo disputatur de corpore spirituali post resurrectionem, et utrum ejusmodi corporis oculis videri Deus possit. Habitus in basilica Restituta.
Sermon 277. On the feast of the martyr Vincent, 4. In which there is a discussion of the spiritual body after the resurrection, and whether God can be seen by the eyes of such a body. Preached in the Basilica Restituta.
CAPUT PRIMUM. — 1. Vincentii cadaver invictum. Reliquiae sanctorum ad fidelium consolationem. Corpora sanctorum data Ecclesiis ad memorias orationum, non ad glorias martyrum. Oculis fidei certantem exspectavimus Martyrem, et amavimus totum invisibiliter
Chapter I. — 1. The unconquered corpse of Vincent. The relics of the saints for the consolation of the faithful. The bodies of the saints given to the Churches for memorials of prayers, not for the glories of the martyrs. With the eyes of faith we watched the Martyr contending, and we loved him as wholly invisibly
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In veteri libro Colbertino inscribitur hic sermo, De basilica in vallis gloriosi martyris Vincentii restituta.

In an old Colbertine book this sermon is entitled: On the basilica of the glorious martyr Vincent restored in the valley.

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Alias, de Diversis 102.

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pulchrum. Qualis enim decoris habebat spiritum, cujus fuit et cadaver invictum? Dominum confessus est vivus: inimicum superavit et mortuus. Quid putamus, fratres, quod istum honorem providentia et consilium omnipotentis Creatoris cum etiam defuncto corpori detulit, Martyri aliquid praestitit? Quid enim? si non sepeliretur, ignorabat ille unde suscitaretur? Illi et in victoria corona, et in resurrectione servata est vita aeterna. Sed de corpore ejus, Ecclesiae praestita est consolationis memoria. Sic plerumque Deus de servis suis praestat servis suis quadam dignatione, donans quod magis prosit ei cui datur, quam ei de quo datur. Sic Eliam sanctum Deus per avem pascebat: non autem misericordia Dei et omnipotentia defecerat, ut semper sic pasceret. Mittitur tamen pascendus ad viduam (III Reg. XVII, 9): non quia non erat quomodo Dei servus aleretur, sed ut fidelis vidua benedictionem mereretur. Praestitit ergo sanctorum corpora Ecclesiis suis ad memorias orationum, non ad glorias martyrum. Illi enim habent integram gloriam suam apud Creatorem suum. Nec ipsi corpori aliquid timent, quoniam non est quod timeant. Magis si parcant corpori, nocent et corpori. Si autem per fidem non parcant corpori, praestant et corpori.
beautiful. For of what beauty was the spirit possessed, whose very corpse was unconquered? Living, he confessed the Lord; dead, he overcame the enemy as well. What do we think, brethren: in that the providence and counsel of the almighty Creator conferred this honour even upon the dead body, did it bestow anything on the Martyr? For what? If he were not buried, would he not have known whence he was to be raised? For him both the crown in victory and eternal life in the resurrection have been kept. But from his body a memorial of consolation has been bestowed on the Church. Thus for the most part God, by a certain condescension, bestows on His servants from His servants, giving what may profit him to whom it is given more than him from whom it is given. Thus God used to feed holy Elijah by a bird: yet the mercy and omnipotence of God had not failed, that He might always feed him so. Nevertheless he is sent to a widow to be fed (1 Kgs. 17:9): not because there was no means by which the servant of God might be nourished, but that a faithful widow might merit a blessing. He has therefore granted the bodies of the saints to His Churches for memorials of prayers, not for the glories of the martyrs. For they have their glory entire with their Creator. Nor do they fear anything for the body itself, since there is nothing for them to fear. Rather, if they spare the body, they harm the body as well. But if through faith they do not spare the body, they benefit the body as well.
CAPUT II. — 2. Martyr corpori non parcendo, ipsi consuluit. Judicium, pro poena aeterna. Ecce hoc attendite, et fidem vestram interrogate. Sanctus Vincentius si formidine tormentorum negaret Christum, videretur corpori pepercisse: quadam autem conditione mortali, corpore solveretur. Quid ageret in resurrectione, cum in aeternum ignem praecipitaretur? Negans Christum, negatur a Christo. Qui negaverit me, inquit, coram hominibus, negabo eum coram Patre meo qui est in coelis (Luc. XII, 9). Ecce negaret, quiescerent illi tortores, et vulnerato animo sanum esset corpus; imo occiso animo, viveret corpus: quid prodesset in aeternum mortuo brevis corporis vita? Veniret dies, quam commemorat Dominus, quando omnes qui in monumentis sunt, audient vocem ejus, et procedent: sed cum magna differentia. Omnes procedent, sed non omnes ad eamdem rem procedent. Omnes surrecturi, sed non omnes immutandi. Qui enim bene fecerunt, inquit, in resurrectionem vitae; qui autem male, in resurrectionem judicii (Joan. V, 28, 29). Cum dicit, Omnes qui in monumentis sunt, procul dubio manifestat corporum resurrectionem. Judicium autem cum audis, ne tibi tanquam de temporali judicio blandiaris; ponitur judicium pro poena aeterna. Secundum hoc dictum est, Qui autem non credit, jam judicatus est (Id. III, 18). Haec ergo differentia separatura est justos ab injustis, fideles ab infidelibus, confessores a negatoribus, amatores vitae periturae ab amatoribus vitae aeternae; separatura est illa discretio. Et ibunt justi in vitam aeternam, impii vero in ignem aeternum (Matth. XXV, 46). Ibi cum corpore torquebuntur,
Chapter II. — 2. The martyr, by not sparing the body, took thought for it. Judgement, put for eternal punishment. See, attend to this, and question your faith. If Saint Vincent, from dread of torments, had denied Christ, he would seem to have spared the body: yet by some condition of mortality he would be released from the body. What would he do in the resurrection, when he was being hurled into eternal fire? Denying Christ, he is denied by Christ. Whoever denies Me, He says, before men, I will deny him before My Father Who is in heaven (Luke 12:9). See, had he denied, those torturers would have rested, and with the soul wounded the body would have been sound; nay rather, with the soul slain, the body would have lived: what would the brief life of the body profit one dead for eternity? The day would come which the Lord recalls, when all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth: but with a great difference. All will come forth, but not all will come forth to the same thing. All are to rise, but not all are to be changed. For those who have done well, He says, to the resurrection of life; but those who have done ill, to the resurrection of judgement (John 5:28–29). When He says, All who are in the tombs, He beyond doubt makes plain the resurrection of bodies. But when you hear judgement, do not flatter yourself as though it concerned a temporal judgement; judgement is put for eternal punishment. In accordance with this it was said, But he who does not believe is already judged (John 3:18). This difference, therefore, is going to separate the just from the unjust, the faithful from the unbelieving, confessors from deniers, lovers of the life that will perish from lovers of eternal life; that discrimination is going to separate them. And the just will go into eternal life, but the ungodly into eternal fire (Matt. 25:46). There, together with the body, they will be tormented,
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qui corpori pepercerunt. Timendo enim tormenta corporis, corpori pepercerunt; et parcendo corpori, Christum negaverunt; et negando Christum, poenas aeternas etiam corpori distulerunt. Si distulerunt, numquid abstulerunt?
who spared the body. For by fearing the torments of the body, they spared the body; and by sparing the body, they denied Christ; and by denying Christ, they deferred eternal punishments even for the body. If they deferred them, did they take them away?
CAPUT III. — 3. Corpus non contempserunt martyres, sed ei bene consuluerunt. Ergo prudenter martyres Christi non sua corpora contempserunt. Perversa est ista, et mundana philosophia, eorum qui non credunt corporum resurrectionem. Videntur enim sibi quasi magni corporis contemptores, quia ipsa corpora quasi pro carceribus se habere arbitrantur, quo detrusas putant animas, quod alibi ante peccaverunt. Deus autem noster et corpus fecit et spiritum; et utriusque creator est, et utriusque recreator; utriusque institutor, utriusque etiam restitutor. Non ergo carnem tanquam inimicam, vel contempserunt, vel persecuti sunt martyres. Nemo enim unquam carnem suam odio habuit (Ephes. V, 29). Magis ei consuluerunt, quando eam negligere videbantur: quando in ea fideliter persistentes, temporalia tormenta tolerabant, aeternam etiam ipsi carni gloriam comparabant.
Chapter III. — 3. The martyrs did not despise the body, but took good care of it. Therefore the martyrs of Christ wisely did not despise their bodies. Perverse is that worldly philosophy of those who do not believe in the resurrection of bodies. For they seem to themselves to be, as it were, great despisers of the body, because they consider that they have these very bodies as if for prisons, into which they think souls have been thrust down because they sinned elsewhere beforehand. But our God made both the body and the spirit; and He is the creator of both, and the re-creator of both; the founder of both, and also the restorer of both. So the martyrs neither despised nor persecuted the flesh as an enemy. For no one ever hated his own flesh (Eph. 5:29). Rather they took care of it when they seemed to neglect it: when, persisting faithfully in it, they endured temporal torments, they were also procuring eternal glory for the flesh itself.
CAPUT IV. — 4. Corporis gloria post resurrectionem. Sanitas corporis, concordia eorum quibus constat. Quae sit autem futura in resurrectione gloria carnis hujus, quis explicet verbis? Nemo adhuc nostrum habendo expertus est. Nunc carnem onerosam portamus; quia indigam, quia infirmam, quia mortalem, quia corruptibilem. Corpus enim quod corrumpitur, aggravat animam (Sap. IX, 15). Sed noli hoc in resurrectione metuere. Oportet ut corruptibile hoc induat incorruptionem, et mortale hoc induat immortalitatem (I Cor. XV, 53). Quod nunc est onus, erit honor: quod nunc sarcina, tunc levamen. Non enim habebit pondus, ut corpus habere te sentias. Videte, charissimi: quando sanum est corpus nostrum, etiam hoc fragile atque mortale, quando suarum partium temperamento moderatum est, quando in eo nihil ejus adversus aliud rixatur; non calor superat et urget algorem, non copia frigoris fervor exstinguitur, et dum luctatur affligit; non humorem siccitas sorbet, non inundat humor et premit; sed omnia quibus constat concordi inter se junctura librata sunt, quae sanitas dicitur. Est autem, ut breviter dicam, sanitas corporis, eorum concordia quibus constat. Haec ergo sanitas, id est membrorum humorumque concordia in re corruptibili, in re egena et infirma, in re quae adhuc esurire et sitire potest, stando lassari, sedendo refici, rursus sedendo lassari, esuriendo deficere, vescendo refici; non succurrere defectionibus praeteritis nisi aliis inchoatis: quidquid enim aliud ad refectionem ceperis lassus, initium est alterius lassitudinis; quia in re, quam sumpsisti ut succurreres, si perseveres, et inde fatigaberis: in hoc ergo infirmo et corruptibili corpore, quid est ipsa sanitas qualiscumque? Neque enim haec, quae in carne mortali et corruptibili dicitur
Chapter IV. — 4. The glory of the body after the resurrection. The health of the body is the harmony of the things of which it consists. But what the glory of this flesh will be in the resurrection, who can set forth in words? None of us has yet experienced it by having it. Now we carry burdensome flesh; because it is needy, because it is weak, because it is mortal, because it is corruptible. For the body which is corrupted weighs down the soul (Wis. 9:15). But do not fear this in the resurrection. This corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal put on immortality (1 Cor. 15:53). What is now a burden will be an honour: what is now a load will then be a relief. For it will not have weight, such that you feel you have a body. Consider, dearly beloved: when our body is healthy, even this frail and mortal one, when it is regulated by the balanced mixture of its parts, when nothing of it in it quarrels against another; heat does not overcome and press upon cold, nor is warmth extinguished by an abundance of chill, which afflicts [the body] while it struggles; dryness does not swallow up moisture, nor does moisture flood and oppress; but all the things of which it consists are balanced in a harmonious joining with one another, which is called health. Now, to put it briefly, the health of the body is the harmony of the things of which it consists. This health, then, that is, the harmony of the limbs and humours in a corruptible thing, in a needy and weak thing, in a thing which can still hunger and thirst, grow weary by standing, be refreshed by sitting, again grow weary by sitting, fail by hungering, be refreshed by eating; which cannot relieve past failings except by beginning others: for whatever else you have taken up for refreshment when weary is the beginning of another weariness; because in the very thing you took up in order to relieve yourself, if you persist, you will be fatigued by that too: in this weak and corruptible body, then, what is health itself, of whatever sort? For this, which in mortal and corruptible flesh is called
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sanitas, ullo modo Angelorum sanitati comparanda est, quorum nobis aequalitas in resurrectione promittitur (Luc. XX, 36).
health, is in no way to be compared with the health of the Angels, equality with whom is promised to us in the resurrection (Luke 20:36).
CAPUT V. — Haec tamen sanitas, ut dixi, qualiscumque quid habet delectationis, quam exoptabile bonum est omnibus? Quantam rem habet pauper, cum hanc solam habet; quantam non habet dives, cum hanc solam non habet? Quid se jactat copiosum? Febris lectum non formidat argenteum: non timet pompam divitis, non timet jacula bellatoris.
Chapter V. Yet this health, as I have said, of whatever kind it is, what delight it has, how desirable a good it is to all! How great a thing the poor man has when he has this alone; how great a thing the rich man lacks when this alone he lacks! Why does he boast of himself as wealthy? Fever does not dread a silver bed: it does not fear the pomp of the rich man, it does not fear the javelins of the warrior.
5. Sanitas est nihil sentire, scilicet molestum et onerosum. Quid ergo sanitas haec ipsa, quam recte martyres contempserunt, quia in ipsa carne aliam speraverunt? Tamen quia illam nondum experti sumus, ex ista quam novimus, illam utcumque conjiciamus. Quid est sanitas? Si dicas mihi, Quid est videre? quantum ad corpus attinet, respondebo tibi fortasse, formas coloresque sentire. Si dicas mihi, Quid est audire? respondebo, sonos sentire. Si dicas, Quid est olfacere? respondebo, odores sentire. Quid est tangere? Dura vel mollia, calida vel frigida, aspera et lenia, gravia vel levia sentire. Quid est sanitas? Nihil sentire. Sed et haec ipsa in nobis modo aliorum comparatione vilescunt. Acute vides: acutius te forsitan aquila. Acute audis: sunt bestiolae quae audiunt acutius. Acute olfacis: canem sagacem non vincis. Acute sapores gustando dijudicas: sunt animalia quae inexpertas herbas discernunt, et quod est noxium non attingunt. Nam tu quamlibet acute discernas cibum, imprudens irruis in venenum. Acute sentis tangendo: quam multae aves aestatem futuram praesentiunt, et loca demutant; hiemem imminere praesentiunt, ad loca calidiora demigrant? quod tu cum venerit sentis, antequam veniat illae praesentiunt. Et hoc ipsum quod in sanitate laudavi, nihil sentit lapis, nihil arbor, nihil cadaver.
5. Health is to feel nothing, namely nothing troublesome and burdensome. What then is this very health, which the martyrs rightly despised, because in that very flesh they hoped for another? Yet since we have not yet experienced that one, let us conjecture it somehow from this one which we know. What is health? If you say to me, What is seeing? as far as the body is concerned, I shall perhaps answer you, to perceive shapes and colours. If you say to me, What is hearing? I shall answer, to perceive sounds. If you say, What is smelling? I shall answer, to perceive odours. What is touching? To perceive hard or soft, hot or cold, rough and smooth, heavy or light. What is health? To feel nothing. But even these very things in us now grow cheap by comparison with others. You see keenly: an eagle perhaps more keenly than you. You hear keenly: there are little beasts which hear more keenly. You smell keenly: you do not surpass a keen-scented dog. You judge flavours keenly by tasting: there are animals which distinguish herbs they have not tried, and do not touch what is harmful. For you, however keenly you discern your food, rush unawares into poison. You perceive keenly by touching: how many birds feel beforehand the coming summer, and change their places; feel beforehand that winter is impending, and migrate to warmer places? What you feel when it has come, they feel beforehand before it comes. And this very thing which I have praised in health, a stone feels nothing, a tree nothing, a corpse nothing.
CAPUT VI. — 6. Dacianus saeviens in corpus mortuum. Vivere in corpore, et nihil ex ejus onere sentire, est sanum esse. Onus corporis in hac vita semper manet. Nam praeses ille Dacianus in corde nihil sentiebat, quando in nihil sentiens cadaver saeviebat? Quid enim jam faciebat nihil sentienti, qui potuit et a sentiente superari? Fecit tamen quidquid potuit, fecit iratus. Sed qui jam nihil in palam patiebatur, in occulto coronabatur. Tenebat enim sententiam Domini sui: qui cum vellet nos securos facere de his qui corpus occidunt, Nolite, inquit, timere eos qui corpus occidunt, et postea non habent quid faciant! (Matth. X, 28; Luc. XII, 4). Quomodo postea non habent quid faciant, quando insanus ille de Vincentii corpore tanta fecit? Sed Vincentio quid fecit, qui etiam sentienti nihil fecit? Ergo non sic non sentire, ut non sentit lapis, ut non sentit arbor, ut non sentit cadaver; sed vivere in corpore, et nihil ex ejus onere sentire, hoc est sanum esse. Et tamen quantumlibet sit homo in hac vita sanus, sentit etiam
Chapter VI. 6. Dacian raging against a dead body. To live in the body, and to feel nothing of its burden, is to be healthy. The burden of the body always remains in this life. For did that governor Dacian feel nothing in his heart, when he raged against a corpse that felt nothing? For what was he now doing to one who felt nothing, he who could be overcome even by one who felt? Yet he did whatever he could; he did it in anger. But he who now suffered nothing in the open was being crowned in secret. For he held fast the saying of his Lord, Who, when He wished to make us secure concerning those who kill the body, said, Do not fear those who kill the body, and afterwards have nothing that they may do! (Matt. 10:28; Luke 12:4). How do they afterwards have nothing that they may do, when that madman did so much to the body of Vincent? But what did he do to Vincent, who did nothing to him even when he felt? Therefore not to feel nothing in the way a stone does not feel, in the way a tree does not feel, in the way a corpse does not feel; but to live in the body, and to feel nothing of its burden, this is to be healthy. And yet however healthy a man may be in this life, he feels also
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Colbertinus Ms., Nihil adversum sentire.

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Apud Lov., illa praesentit. M.

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Plures Mss., Sed qui jam nihil a palam saeviente patiebatur.

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sani corporis pondus. Aggravat animam etiam sanum corpus quod corrumpitur, id est, corruptibile. Aggravat animam, id est, non obtemperat animae ad nutum omnis voluntatis. Obtemperat in multis: movet manus ad operandum, pedes ad ambulandum, linguam ad loquendum, oculos ad videndum, ad sentiendas voces intendit auditum: in his omnibus corpus obsequitur. Mutandi loci cupiditas sentit onus, sentit pondus: non tanta facilitate movetur corpus ad perveniendum, quo desiderat. Desiderat aliquis amicum videre in corpore constitutus, in corpore constitutum; illum novit esse in longinquo, multae mansiones interjacent: animo jam praecessit, corpore quando pervenit, tunc sentit quale onus portet. Non potuit ad celeritatem praesumptam obedire voluntati pondus carnis: non potuit ea celeritate rapi, qua voluit, qua eam portat animus. Tardum et onerosum est.
the weight of a healthy body. Even a healthy body, which is corrupted, that is, corruptible, weighs down the soul. It weighs down the soul, that is, it does not obey the soul at the nod of every act of will. It obeys in many things: it moves the hands to work, the feet to walk, the tongue to speak, the eyes to see; it directs the hearing to perceive sounds: in all these things the body complies. The desire to change place feels a burden, feels a weight: the body is not moved with such ease to arrive where it desires. Someone placed in the body desires to see a friend placed in the body; he knows that the friend is far away, and many stages lie between: in mind he has already gone ahead; in body, when he arrives, then he feels what a burden he carries. The weight of the flesh could not obey the will at the speed it had presumed: it could not be carried off with the speed it wished, the speed with which the mind carries it. It is slow and burdensome.
CAPUT VII. — 7. Quaerendum aliquid in hoc corpore unde intelligatur velocitas corporis futuri spiritualis. Putamusne, habet aliquid ipsum corpus, unde probetur velocitas corporis? Pedes dicemus? Quid tardius? Ipsi sunt qui perveniunt, et desideria vix sequuntur, et molimenta moliendo perveniunt. Sed fac quemquam ita velocem, ut sunt quaedam animalia, quibus nec comparanda est velocitas nostra; fac quemquam ita velocem, ut sunt aves: non eo ictu pervenit, quo voluerit. Diu volant aves migrando, et aliquando fessae insidunt arboribus navium. Ergo si etiam sicut aves volare possemus, prae desiderio perveniendi tardi essemus. Cum vero fuerit corpus spirituale, de quo dictum est, Seminatur corpus animale, surget corpus spirituale (I Cor. XV, 44); quanta ibi facilitas, quanta celeritas, quanta obedientia volentis? In nullo pondus, in nullo egestas, in nullo lassitudo, in nullo ex alia parte renitentia et reluctatio.
Chapter VII. — 7. Something must be sought in this body from which the swiftness of the future spiritual body may be understood. Do we think that the body itself has anything by which the swiftness of the body may be shown? Shall we say the feet? What is slower? It is they that arrive, and they scarcely keep pace with our desires, and they arrive by toiling through their toils. But suppose someone as swift as certain animals are, with which our swiftness is not even to be compared; suppose someone as swift as birds are: he does not arrive in a single stroke where he would wish. Birds fly a long time when migrating, and sometimes, wearied, they settle on the masts of ships. So even if we could fly like birds, we would be slow in view of our desire to arrive. But when there shall be the spiritual body, of which it is said, It is sown an animal body, it shall rise a spiritual body (1 Cor. 15:44), how great will be the ease there, how great the swiftness, how great the obedience to the one who wills? In nothing weight, in nothing want, in nothing weariness, in nothing resistance and struggle from another part.
CAPUT VIII. — 8. De corpore spirituali ex occasione dicendum. Quale illud corpus erat, quod Dominus per claustra trajecit? Intendite, obsecro, si possim adjuvante Domino qualibuscumque verbis exspectationi vestrae aut satisfacere, aut non multum deesse. Nata nobis occasio est de corpore spirituali aliquid disputandi ex passione Martyris, a quo sic vidimus et mirati sumus corpus inter tormenta contemni. Diximus enim quia non parcendo corpori, eidem etiam corpori consulebat: ne forte fugiendo temporales poenas, et Christum negando, idem ipsum corpus poenis sempiternis et atrocissimis suppliciis destinaret. Hinc ergo ho⟨r⟩tari vos cupiens, et me ipsum ad praesentia contemnenda, futura speranda: Etenim in hoc habitaculo ingemiscimus gravati, et tamen mori nolumus, et exui pondere formidamus; nolumus enim spoliari, sed supervestiri, ut absorbeatur mortale a vita (II Cor. V, 4): hac ergo occasione de spirituali corpore suscepi aliquid loqui vobis, et primitus commendandam putavi hanc ipsam hujus fragilis et corruptibilis corporis sanitatem, ut ex ipsa magnum aliquid inveniamus. Invenimus in ipsa sanitate nihil sentire. Etenim multa habemus intus in visceribus nostris: quis ea nostrum sciret, nisi in corporibus laniatis videret?
Chapter VIII. — 8. Of the spiritual body, to be spoken of as the occasion offers. What kind of body was that which the Lord brought through closed doors? Pay attention, I beg you, to see whether, with the Lord's help, by whatever words I can, I may either satisfy your expectation or not fall far short of it. The occasion has arisen for us to discuss something about the spiritual body from the passion of the Martyr, by whom, as we saw and marvelled, the body was so despised amid torments. For we said that by not sparing his body he was in fact taking thought for that same body: lest perhaps, by fleeing temporal punishments and denying Christ, he should consign that very same body to everlasting punishments and most atrocious torments. Hence, therefore, desiring to exhort you, and myself too, to despise present things and to hope for future things: For indeed in this dwelling we groan, being burdened, and yet we do not want to die, and we dread to be stripped of the weight; for we do not wish to be unclothed, but to be clothed over, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life (2 Cor. 5:4): on this occasion, then, I undertook to say something to you about the spiritual body, and I thought that first of all I should commend this very health of this fragile and corruptible body, so that from it we may find something great. We find that in health itself one feels nothing. For we have many things within, in our entrails: which of us would know of them, unless he saw them in mangled bodies?
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Viscera nostra, interiora nostra, quae dicuntur intestina, unde novimus? Et tunc est bonum, quando illa non sentimus. Quando enim illa non sentimus, tunc sani sumus. Dicis alicui, Observa stomachum. Respondet tibi, Quid est stomachus? Felix ignorantia: nescit ubi habeat, quod semper sanum habet. Si sanum non haberet, sentiret: si sentiret, non bono suo sciret.
Our viscera, our inward parts, which are called intestines, how do we know them? And it is well precisely when we do not feel them. For when we do not feel them, then we are healthy. You say to someone, "Watch your stomach." He answers you, "What is a stomach?" Happy ignorance: he does not know where he has what he always has in health. If he did not have it in health, he would feel it; if he felt it, he would know it, and not to his good.
CAPUT IX. — 9. Celeritas corporum coelestium. Angelorum corpora. Sed quamvis laudata corporis sanitate venimus ad celeritatem motus, et invenimus nos plumbeos quodam modo. Quanta est celeritas coelestium corporum? Vis nosse quanta sit? Intueris solem, et tibi videtur quasi non moveatur, et tamen movetur. Forte dicis: Movetur, sed tardius. Vis nosse quanta celeritate moveatur? Vis ratione colligere, quod non sentis aspectu? Si recta via ab oriente usque in occidentem in hac terra veredis quisque curreret, per quot dies perveniret? Qualibet equorum velocitate ferretur, quot mansiones ageret? Spatium itineris ab initio orientis usque ad finem occidentis sol, qui tibi videtur stare, uno die conficit, et una nocte ad ortum redit. Nolo dicere, quia obscurum est, et ad persuadendum difficile, vel fortassis incertum, quam sint spatia coelestia multo quam terrestria latiora. Cum ergo videamus tantam celeritatem coelestium corporum, quae nobis videntur cum attenduntur non moveri; cui celeritati comparare possumus corpus angelicum? Adfuerunt etiam, et quando voluerunt se conspiciendos tangendosque praebuerunt. Lavit Angelis pedes Abraham (Gen. XVIII, 4). Non solum lavit illa corpora, verum etiam contrectavit. Apparuerunt, ut voluerunt, quando voluerunt, quibus voluerunt. Nihil difficultatis, nihil omnino tarditatis sentiunt. Sed non eos videmus currentes, non eos videmus de loco in locum migrantes, ut nossemus ab oculis hominum discedentes: quando voluerunt, pervenerunt. Non est ergo unde etiam do istis evidentissimum celeritatis hujus praebeamus exemplum. Omittamus incognita, et de inexpertis nihil temere praesumere audeamus.
Chapter IX. — 9. The speed of the heavenly bodies. The bodies of angels. But although we have praised the health of the body, we come to speed of motion, and we find ourselves in a certain manner leaden. How great is the speed of the heavenly bodies? Do you wish to know how great it is? You gaze at the sun, and it seems to you as if it were not moving, and yet it moves. Perhaps you say: It moves, but rather slowly. Do you wish to know with what speed it moves? Do you wish to gather by reasoning what you do not perceive by sight? If someone were to run with post-horses by a straight road from the east to the west on this earth, in how many days would he arrive? At whatever speed of horses he were carried, how many stages would he make? The sun, which seems to you to stand still, completes in one day the distance of the journey from the beginning of the east to the end of the west, and in one night returns to its rising. I do not wish to say, because it is obscure and hard to make convincing, or perhaps uncertain, how much wider the heavenly spaces are than the earthly. Since, then, we see so great a speed in the heavenly bodies, which seem to us, when they are watched, not to move, to what speed can we compare the angelic body? They have also been present, and when they wished they offered themselves to be seen and touched. Abraham washed the angels' feet (Gen. 18:4). Not only did he wash those bodies, but he also handled them. They appeared as they wished, when they wished, to whom they wished. They feel no difficulty, no slowness at all. But we do not see them running, we do not see them passing from place to place, so that we might know them as they departed from the eyes of men: when they wished, they arrived. There is therefore no way for us to offer from them too a most evident example of this speed. Let us pass over things unknown, and let us not dare rashly to presume anything about things not experienced.
CAPUT X. — 10. Radii oculi celeritas. In hoc ipso corpore, quod gestamus, invenio aliquid, cujus ineffabilem mirer celeritatem. Quid est hoc? Radius oculi nostri, quo tangimus quidquid cernimus. Quod enim vides, oculi tui radio contingis. Si velis videre longius, et interponatur aliquod corpus, irruit radius in corpus objectum, et transire non permittitur ad id quod videre desideras; et dicis impedienti, Exi, obstas mihi. Columnam vis videre, homo in medio stat, impedit aciem tuam. Radius tuus emissus est, sed pervenit usque ad hominem, usque ad columnam pervenire non sinitur: incurrit in aliud aliquid, non permittitur. Ecce qui tibi obstabat, discessit e medio, pervenit acies quo volebat. Modo discute, et si potes, inveni atque responde, utrum acies ista, radius iste oculi tui citius pervenit ad proximum, tardius ad longinquum. Vidisti hominem in proximo constitutum, tanta mora illum vidisti, tanta mora ad eum radium oculi tui tetendisti, tanta mora ad eum oculi tui radio
Chapter X. — 10. The speed of the eye's ray. In this very body which we carry I find something whose ineffable speed I may marvel at. What is this? The ray of our eye, by which we touch whatever we perceive. For what you see, you touch with the ray of your eye. If you wish to see further, and some body is placed in between, the ray rushes against the body set in the way, and is not allowed to pass through to that which you desire to see; and you say to the one hindering you, "Get out, you are in my way." You wish to see a column, a man stands in the middle, he hinders your gaze. Your ray has been sent out, but it reaches as far as the man; it is not allowed to reach as far as the column: it runs into something else, it is not permitted. See, the one who was obstructing you has moved out of the way; the gaze reaches where it wished. Now examine, and if you can, find out and answer whether that gaze, that ray of your eye, reaches the nearest thing more quickly and the distant thing more slowly. You have seen a man standing close by; with so much delay you saw him, with so much delay you stretched the ray of your eye to him, with so much delay to him with the ray of your eye
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pervenisti, quanta mora pervenis et ad illam columnam quam volebas videre, et quia homo interpositus erat, non poteras: non ad ipsum citius, et ad illam tardius; et ecce ipse in proximo erat, et illa longius. Si ambulare velles, citius ad hominem, quam ad columnam pervenires: quia videre voluisti, tam cito ad hominem, quam ad columnam pervenisti. Nihil est hoc de columna et de homine. Jace adhuc oculos, vides longe parietem: mitte longius, pervenis ad solem. Quantum est inter te et solem? Quis illa intervalla metiatur? Quis ullo acumine cogitationis aestimet quantum a te longe sit sol? Et tamen mox ut oculum aperueris, ecce tu hic es, radius tuus ibi est. Mox ut videre voluisti, videndo pervenisti. Non quaesisti machinas quibus nitereris, non scalas quibus ascenderes, non funes quibus levareris, non pennas quibus volares. Oculum aperuisse, hoc est pervenisse.
you arrived, with as much delay as you also arrive at that column which you wished to see, and, because a man had been placed in between, could not: not more quickly to him and more slowly to it; and behold, he was close by, and it further off. If you wished to walk, you would arrive sooner at the man than at the column: because you wished to see, you arrived as quickly at the man as at the column. This is nothing, this about the column and the man. Cast your eyes further still: you see a wall far off; send them further, you arrive at the sun. How much is there between you and the sun? Who could measure those distances? Who by any sharpness of thought could estimate how far from you the sun is? And yet as soon as you have opened your eye, behold, you are here, your ray is there. As soon as you wished to see, by seeing you arrived. You did not seek machines by which to strive upwards, nor ladders by which to climb, nor ropes by which to be lifted, nor wings by which to fly. To have opened the eye, this is to have arrived.
CAPUT XI. — 11. Celeritati radii ex oculo emissi resurrectio comparata. Quid ergo ista celeritas? quanta est? quid sibi vult? Corporis nostri est, de carne nostra emittitur. Radios nos habemus, et non miramur. Videndo utimur, considerando expavescimus. Non invenis aliquid quod huic compares celeritati, quantum attinet ad corporis celeritatem. Merito huic celeritati apostolus Paulus facilitatem resurrectionis comparavit, dicens: In ictu oculi (I Cor. XV, 52). Ictus oculi est, non in palpebris claudendis et aperiendis: nam hoc tardius agitur, quam videtur. Tardius palpebram levas, quam dirigis radium. Citius radius tuus pervenit ad coelum, quam palpebra levata ad supercilium. Videtis quid sit ictus oculi: videtis quam facilitatem Apostolus resurrectioni corporum dederit. Quam tarde ista creata atque formata sunt? Recolamus moras conceptus, et in ipsis uteris matrum coalescentium semina parvulorum; per temporum numerum membra formata, diebus certis, mensibus multis, quo usque illud quod intus creatum atque formatum est proferatur in lucem. Deinde quanta mora crescit, quanta mora succedit adolescentia pueritiae, juventus adolescentiae, senectus juventuti, mors omnibus. Accedit etiam alia mora: videtur integrum recens cadaver, in putredinem solvitur; et ad ipsam resolutionem necessaria sunt tempora, donec in tabem defluat, siccetur in cinere: et ab ipsis primordiis uteri usque ad cinerem extremum sepulcri quanta interjacet mora? quot dies? quae temporum spatia? Venit ad resurgendum, in ictu oculi reparatur.
Chapter XI. — 11. The resurrection compared to the swiftness of the ray sent out from the eye. What then is this swiftness? How great is it? What does it mean? It belongs to our body, it is sent out from our flesh. We have rays, and we do not marvel. We use them in seeing; in considering them we are struck with dread. You find nothing that you could compare to this swiftness, as far as concerns the swiftness of the body. Rightly did the apostle Paul compare the ease of the resurrection to this swiftness, saying: In the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor. 15:52). The twinkling of an eye is not in closing and opening the eyelids: for that is done more slowly than seeing is. You raise the eyelid more slowly than you direct the ray. Your ray reaches heaven more quickly than the raised eyelid reaches the eyebrow. You see what the twinkling of an eye is: you see what ease the Apostle has given to the resurrection of bodies. How slowly were these things created and formed? Let us recall the delays of conception, and the seeds of little ones growing together in the very wombs of their mothers; the limbs formed through a number of times, on fixed days, over many months, until that which has been created and formed within is brought forth into the light. Then with how much delay it grows, with how much delay adolescence succeeds childhood, youth adolescence, old age youth, death all of them. There is also another delay: a fresh corpse is seen whole, it is dissolved into putrefaction; and for that very dissolution times are needed, until it flows away into corruption and is dried into ash: and from the very beginnings in the womb up to the final ash of the tomb, how much delay lies between? How many days? What spans of time? It comes to rise again: in the twinkling of an eye it is restored.
CAPUT XII. — 12. Ex resurrectionis futurae facilitate intelligenda facilitas corporis spiritualis. Haec mirabilior celeritate radii oculi. Attendite ergo, fratres, et comparate quae comparanda sunt, rebus quibus comparanda sunt. Celerius movetur ista caro in ambulando, quam formata est, quam nutrita est, quam crevit, quam ad habitum juvenilem pervenit, integramque aetatem et staturam percepit: celerius movetur in ambulando, quam hoc in illa fiat. Porro autem resurrectio fiet in ictu oculi: quanta erit celeritas movendi, si tanta potuit esse resurgendi? Laniata sunt corpora a saevie⟨n⟩tibus: toto licet
Chapter XII. — 12. From the ease of the future resurrection the ease of the spiritual body is to be understood. This is more wonderful than the swiftness of the eye's ray. Pay attention then, brethren, and compare the things that are to be compared with the things to which they are to be compared. This flesh moves more quickly in walking than it was formed, than it was nourished, than it grew, than it reached the condition of youth and attained its full age and stature: it moves more quickly in walking than this comes about in it. But further, the resurrection will happen in the twinkling of an eye: how great will be the swiftness of moving, if so great could be the swiftness of rising again? Bodies have been torn to pieces by those raging against them: although in the whole
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mundo dissipentur membra mortuorum, per totam terram cineres dispergantur; de toto tam grandi sinu totum quod sparsum est in ictu oculi reparatur. Miramur radiorum nostrorum, qui funduntur ex oculis, nimiam quamdam, et nisi experiremur, incredibilem celeritatem: mirabilior est in corpore, quod futurum est, spirituali facilitas. In ictu quidem oculi resurget: sed Dominus noster, quod radius oculi nostri non potest, corpus etiam per claustra trajecit. Post resurrectionem in loco uno constitutis discipulis suis, subito apparuit ostiis clausis (Joan. XX, 19). Qua nos videre non possumus, ille potuit et intrare. Nemo dicat, Hoc quidem potuit, sed Domini corpus; numquid continuo etiam meum poterit? Et hinc accipe ab Spiritu, qui de Apostolo loquebatur, plenam securitatem. De ipso quippe Domino dictum est: Qui transfigurabit corpus humilitatis nostrae conforme corpori gloriae suae (Philipp. III, 21).
world the members of the dead be torn apart, their ashes be dispersed through the whole earth; from the whole of so great a bosom all that was scattered is restored in the twinkling of an eye. We marvel at the exceeding, and, were we not to experience it, incredible swiftness of our rays, which are poured forth from the eyes: more marvellous in the spiritual body that is to be is its ease. In the twinkling of an eye indeed it will rise again: but our Lord, something the ray of our eye cannot do, brought even His body through barriers. After the resurrection, when His disciples were gathered in one place, He suddenly appeared, the doors being shut (John 20:19). Where we cannot see, He was able even to enter. Let no one say: This indeed it was able to do, but it was the Lord's body; will mine too straightway be able to? Here too receive full assurance from the Spirit, Who spoke through the Apostle. For of the Lord Himself it is said: Who will transfigure the body of our lowliness, conformed to the body of His glory (Phil. 3:21).
CAPUT XIII. — 13. An Deus videbitur per corpus spirituale. Deus non potest videri in loco ad modum corporis. De isto ergo tali corpore, de hujus corporis tanta facilitate, tanta celeritate, tanta sanitate, nihil tomere ac praesumenter definire audeat humana fragilitas. Quales erimus, sciemus cum fuerimus. Antequam simus, temerarii non simus, ne illud non simus. Quaerit aliquando humana curiositas, et dicit sibi: Putasne per illud spirituale corpus videbimus Deum? Cito quidem responderi potest: In loco non videtur Deus, per partes non videtur Deus, spatiis diffusus intervallisque separatus non videtur Deus. Quamvis impleat coelum et terram, non ideo tamen dimidius est in coelo, dimidius in terra. Nam aer iste si implet coelum et terram; pars ejus quae in coelo est, non est in terra. Et quidquid aqua implet, implet quidem spatium quo capitur; sed dimidia est in dimidio spatio, dimidia in alio dimidio, tota in toto. Non est tale aliquid Deus. Hoc omnino noli dubitare, quoniam non est corpus Deus. Per spatia diffundi, locis capi, habere partes dimidias, tertias, quartas, totas, corporum proprium est. Nihil tale Deus; quia ubique totus Deus: non alibi dimidius, et alibi alio dimidio constitutus; sed ubique totus. Implet coelum et terram: sed totus est in coelo, totus in terra. In principio erat Verbum. Ut etiam de ipso Filio hoc idem audias, quia et Filius cum Patre unus est Deus: non aequalis mole, sed divinitate. In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum: hoc erat in principio apud Deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil. Et paulo post, Et lux lucet in tenebris (Joan. I, 1-5). Iste unigenitus totus manens apud Patrem, totus lucet in tenebris, totus in coelo, totus in terra, totus in Virgine, totus in infante; non alternis temporibus tanquam de loco ad locum migrando. Nam et tu totus es in domo tua, et totus in ecclesia: sed quando in ecclesia, non in domo tua; quando in domo tua, non in ecclesia. Non ergo ille sic totus in coelo, totus in terra, totus in Virgine, totus in infante (ut aliud nihil commemorem), quasi migrando de coelo in terram, de terra in
Chapter XIII. — 13. Whether God will be seen through the spiritual body. God cannot be seen in a place after the manner of a body. Concerning such a body, then, concerning so great an ease of this body, so great a swiftness, so great a soundness, let human frailty dare to define nothing rashly and presumptuously. What we shall be, we shall know when we have become it. Before we are, let us not be rash, lest we fail to be that. Human curiosity sometimes asks, and says to itself: Do you think that we shall see God through that spiritual body? It can indeed be quickly answered: God is not seen in a place, God is not seen by parts, God is not seen diffused through spaces and separated by intervals. Although He fills heaven and earth, He is not for that reason half in heaven, half on earth. For if this air fills heaven and earth, the part of it which is in heaven is not on earth. And whatever water fills, it does indeed fill the space by which it is contained; but half of it is in half the space, half in the other half, the whole in the whole. God is not any such thing. Do not doubt this at all, since God is not a body. To be diffused through spaces, to be contained by places, to have halves, thirds, quarters, wholes, is proper to bodies. God is nothing of the sort; for God is everywhere whole: not half in one place, and placed with the other half in another; but everywhere whole. He fills heaven and earth: but He is whole in heaven, whole on earth. In the beginning was the Word. That you may hear this same thing also of the Son Himself, because the Son too is one God with the Father: equal not in bulk, but in divinity. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God: this was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made. And a little after, And the light shines in the darkness (John 1:1–5). This Only-begotten, remaining whole with the Father, shines whole in the darkness, whole in heaven, whole on earth, whole in the Virgin, whole in the infant; not at alternate times, as though migrating from place to place. For you too are whole in your house, and whole in the church: but when you are in the church, you are not in your house; when in your house, not in the church. He, then, is not thus whole in heaven, whole on earth, whole in the Virgin, whole in the infant (to mention nothing else), as though migrating from heaven to earth, from earth to
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Virginem, de Virgine in infantem, sed ubique simul totus. Non enim quasi aqua refunditur, aut quasi terra molimine separatur atque transfertur. Quando totus in terra est, coelum non deserit: sed et cum coelum implet, a terra non recedit. Attingit enim a fine usque ad finem fortiter, et disponit omnia suaviter (Sap. VIII, 1).
the Virgin, from the Virgin into an infant, but everywhere wholly at once. For He is not poured out like water, nor is He separated and carried across with effort like earth. When He is wholly on earth, He does not desert heaven; and when He fills heaven, He does not withdraw from the earth. For He reaches from end to end mightily, and disposes all things sweetly (Wis. 8:1).
CAPUT XIV. — 14. Si per corpus spirituale videri possit substantia quae non videtur in loco, adhuc incompertum. Si ergo substantiam, quae non videtur in loco, poterunt vel tunc corporales oculi videre, cum fuerit corpus spirituale; si poterunt aliqua vi occulta, aliqua vi inexperta et prorsus incognita, nec ulla aestimatione percepta, si poterunt, possint. Oculis enim videmus, non nostris oculis invidemus. Tantum non conemur Deum perducere ad locum, non conemur Deum includere in loco, non conemur Deum per spatia locorum quasi aliqua mole diffundere; non audeamus hoc, non cogitemus. Maneat substantia divinitatis in sua et propria dignitate. Nos certe, quam possumus, in melius mutemus, non Deum in deterius commutemus. Maxime quia definitum aliquid inde in Scriptura non invenimus, aut nondum invenimus. Nam neque hoc audeo praesumere, non in ea esse quod valeat inveniri. Aut non est, aut latet, aut me latet. Si quid in alterutram partem potuerit ab aliquo inveniri, libenter accipio, et me instructum nisi gratias egero, non homini dicenti, sed ei qui per hominem docet, ingratus ero. Absit autem ut dator gratiae, me esse permittat ingratum. Hoc tantum dico, quia oculi qui per intervalla locorum vident quod vident, id est, ut spatium sit inter videntem, et illud quod videtur; aliter enim isti oculi non vident ⟨ ⟩ nam si ab eis aliquid multum in longinquo removeris, ideo non vident, quia radii ad longe posita non perveniunt; si autem ad eos aliquid propinquius admoveris, nisi sit intervallum aliquod inter oculos videntis et corpus quod videtur, videri omnino non potest; nam si propius admovendo oculos ipsos, quibus aliquid videtur, contingas, perdito spatio amittitur visio: hoc ergo dico, quoniam tales oculi, qui nonnisi per intervalla et spatia locorum vident quidquid vident, nec nunc possunt videre Deum, nec tunc poterunt, quia ille non est in loco. Aut ergo aliud erit quod videre possint, et quod in loco videri non potest: aut si manebit in eis non posse videre nisi in loco, non videbunt eum qui non est in loco.
Chapter XIV. — 14. Whether through the spiritual body a substance which is not seen in a place can be seen is still undiscovered. If, then, bodily eyes will be able even then, when the body has become spiritual, to see the substance which is not seen in a place; if they will be able to by some hidden power, by some power untried and wholly unknown, and grasped by no estimation, if they will be able to, let them be able to. For we see with eyes; we do not begrudge our own eyes. Only let us not attempt to bring God into a place, let us not attempt to enclose God in a place, let us not attempt to spread God out through the extents of places as if in some bulk; let us not dare this, let us not think it. Let the substance of the Godhead remain in its own proper dignity. Let us certainly, as far as we can, be changed for the better, not change God for the worse. Especially since we do not find anything defined on this in Scripture, or have not yet found it. For I do not dare to presume this either, that there is not in it something that could be found. Either it is not there, or it lies hidden, or it lies hidden from me. If anything on either side can be found by anyone, I gladly accept it, and, once instructed, unless I give thanks, not to the man who speaks but to Him Who teaches through a man, I shall be ungrateful. But far be it that the Giver of grace should allow me to be ungrateful. This only I say: that the eyes which see what they see through intervals of places, that is, such that there is a space between the one who sees and that which is seen (for otherwise these eyes do not see: for if you remove something far off from them, they do not see it, because their rays do not reach things placed far away; but if you bring something nearer to them, unless there is some interval between the eyes of the one seeing and the body which is seen, it cannot be seen at all; for if, by bringing it closer, you touch the very eyes by which something is seen, the space is lost and sight is lost): this, then, I say, that such eyes, which see whatever they see only through intervals and extents of places, can neither see God now, nor will they be able to then, because He is not in a place. Either, then, it will be something else that they can see, and which cannot be seen in a place; or, if it remains with them that they cannot see except in a place, they will not see Him Who is not in a place.
CAPUT XV. — 15. De corpore spirituali, deque invisibili Dei natura quid jam certum. Hoc autem donec de spirituali corpore diligentius requiratur, quod aut intelligatur aut recte credatur, teneamus corpus resurrecturum, teneamus formam corporis nostri, hanc futuram, quam vel Christus exhibuit, vel in occulto promisit. Teneamus corpus spirituale futurum, non animale, sicut nunc est. Evidenter enim expressum est, et contradici non potest: Seminatur corpus animale, resurget corpus spirituale (I Cor. XV, 44). Teneamus Patrem et Filium et Spiritum sanctum natura
Chapter XV. — 15. What is now certain concerning the spiritual body, and concerning the invisible nature of God. But until this is more diligently inquired into concerning the spiritual body, so that it may either be understood or rightly believed, let us hold that the body will rise again; let us hold that the form of our body will be that which Christ either displayed or promised in secret. Let us hold that the body will be spiritual, not animal as it now is. For it is plainly expressed, and cannot be contradicted: It is sown an animal body, it shall rise a spiritual body (1 Cor. 15:44). Let us hold the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit by nature
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propria, substantia propria, pariter et aequaliter esse invisibilem, quia pariter et aequaliter credimus immortalem, pariter et aequaliter credimus incorruptibilem. Uno autem loco simul haec posuit Apostolus: Regi autem saeculorum, immortali, invisibili, incorruptibili, soli Deo, honor et gloria in saecula saeculorum. Amen (I Tim. I, 17). Deus solus, Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, immortalis, invisibilis, incorruptibilis: non modo invisibilis, et postea visibilis; quia non modo incorruptibilis, et postea corruptibilis. Sicut immortalis semper, sicut incorruptibilis semper; ita et invisibilis semper. Si mutatur invisibilitas, metuendum est ne mutetur immortalitas. Puto, propterea ipse Apostolus invisibilem in medio posuit, inter immortalem et incorruptibilem. De quo ambigi poterat, ne posset everti, ex utroque latere communivit.
proper, by substance proper, to be equally and alike invisible, because we believe it equally and alike immortal, and we believe it equally and alike incorruptible. In one place the Apostle has set these together: Now to the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, incorruptible, to the only God, be honour and glory for ages of ages. Amen (1 Tim. 1:17). God alone, Father and Son and Holy Spirit, is immortal, invisible, incorruptible: not invisible now and visible afterwards, since He is not incorruptible now and corruptible afterwards. As He is immortal always, as He is incorruptible always, so too He is invisible always. If invisibility is changed, it is to be feared that immortality may be changed. I think that for this reason the Apostle himself put invisible in the middle, between immortal and incorruptible. That about which there could be doubt, he fortified on both sides, so that it could not be overthrown.
CAPUT XVI. — Teneamus istam indeclinabilem confessionem. Non est simile offendere in creaturam, et offendere in Creatorem. Certe qualitates creaturarum disserendo quaeramus, et si in aliquo fallimur, in quod pervenimus in eo ambulemus. Tunc enim si quid aliter sapimus, et hoc nobis Deus revelabit (Philipp. III, 15 16,). Unde hesterno die diutius disputavimus. Beati mundicordes, quoniam ipsi Deum videbunt (Matth. V, 8). Nos mundandis cordibus modis omnibus instemus, omni conatu invigilemus; omni prece, quantum possumus, impetremus, ut cor mundemus. Et si de his quae forinsecus sunt cogitamus: Mundate, ait, quae intus sunt, et quae foris sunt mundata erunt (Id. XXIII, 26).
Chapter XVI. — Let us hold fast this unswerving confession. It is not the same thing to stumble against the creature and to stumble against the Creator. Certainly let us inquire into the qualities of creatures by discussing them, and if we are mistaken in anything, let us walk in that to which we have attained. For then, if we think otherwise in anything, God will reveal this too to us (Phil. 3:15–16). On this we argued at some length yesterday. Blessed are the clean of heart, for they shall see God (Matt. 5:8). Let us press on by every means with the cleansing of our hearts, let us keep watch with every effort; let us obtain by every prayer, as far as we can, that we may cleanse the heart. And if we think about the things that are outside: Cleanse, He says, the things that are within, and the things that are outside will be clean (ibid. 23:26).
16. Visio Dei an carni promissa. Salutare Dei, Christus per carnem videbitur. Christus in judicio videbitur ab omni carne. Fortassis alicui videatur tam clarum esse testimonium de carne, quam de corde: quia scriptum est, Videbit omnis caro salutare Dei (Luc. III, 6). Habemus de corde evidentissimum testimonium. Beati mundicordes, quoniam ipsi Deum videbunt. Habemus et de carne, Videbit omnis caro salutare Dei. Jam quis dubitaret visionem Dei carni esse promissam, nisi moveret, quid est salutare Dei? Imo quia non movet, non enim dubii sumus: salutare Dei Christus Dominus est. Dominus itaque noster Jesus Christus si in sola divinitate videretur, nemo dubitaret carnem visuram esse substantiam Dei; quia, Videbit omnis caro salutare Dei. Quia vero Dominus noster Jesus Christus, et oculis cordis mundis, perfectis, Deo plenis videri potest quantum attinet ad ejus divinitatem; visus est autem et in corpore, secundum quod scriptum est, Post haec in terris visus est, et cum hominibus conversatus est (Baruch III, 38): unde scio quomodo dictum sit, Videbit omnis caro salutare Dei? Quia videbit Christum, dictum est, nemo dubitet.
16. Whether the vision of God is promised to the flesh. The salvation of God, Christ, will be seen through the flesh. Christ at the judgement will be seen by all flesh. Perhaps it may seem to someone that the testimony about the flesh is as clear as that about the heart, because it is written, All flesh shall see the salvation of God (Luke 3:6). We have about the heart a most evident testimony: Blessed are the clean of heart, for they shall see God. We have also about the flesh: All flesh shall see the salvation of God. Now who would doubt that the vision of God has been promised to the flesh, were it not for the question, what is the salvation of God? Rather, since it raises no question, for we are not in doubt: the salvation of God is Christ the Lord. So if our Lord Jesus Christ were seen in His divinity alone, no one would doubt that the flesh is to see the substance of God, because All flesh shall see the salvation of God. But since our Lord Jesus Christ can be seen with the eyes of the heart, clean, perfected, full of God, as far as concerns His divinity, and yet He was also seen in the body, according to what is written, After these things He was seen on earth, and conversed with men (Bar. 3:38): from this I know how it was said, All flesh shall see the salvation of God. Let no one doubt that it was said that it will see Christ.
CAPUT XVII. — Sed utrum in corpore Dominum Christum, an sicut erat in principio Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum, hinc ambigitur, hoc quaeritur. Noli me urgere uno testimonio;
Chapter XVII. — But whether [it will see] Christ the Lord in the body, or as in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, on this there is doubt, this is the question. Do not press me with one testimony;
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Hac de re serm. 53 in die unius virginis mart., forte Agnetis.

On this matter, Sermon 53, on the day of a certain virgin martyr, perhaps Agnes.

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cito confiteor: Videbit omnis caro salutare Dei. Dicunt hoc esse, Videbit omnis caro Christum Dei. Sed visus est Christus et in carne, non quidem carne mortali, si adhuc illa spiritualis mutatio caro dicenda est; quia et ipse post resurrectionem sic dixit videntibus et tangentibus, «Palpate, et videte, quia spiritus carnem et ossa non habet, sicut me videtis habere (Luc. XXIV, 39).» Videbitur et sic: non solum visus est, sed et videbitur. Et forte tunc perfectius implebitur quod dictum est, omnis caro. Modo enim vidit eum caro, sed non omnis caro: tunc vero in judicio venientem cum Angelis suis ad judicandos vivos et mortuos, cum audierint vocem ejus omnes qui sunt in monumentis, et processerint alii ad resurrectionem vitae, alii ad resurrectionem judicii (Joan. V, 28, 29), ipsam formam videbunt, quam pro nobis suscipere dignatus est, non solum justi, sed etiam iniqui, alii ad dexteram, alii ad sinistram; quia et qui occiderunt, videbunt in quem pupugerunt (Joan. XIX, 37). Videbit ergo omnis caro salutare Dei. Corpus per corpus: quia in vero corpore veniet judicaturus. Sed ad dexteram positis, et in regnum coelorum missis, sic se demonstraturus est, quomodo jam in corpore videbatur: et tamen dicebat, Qui diligit me diligetur a Patre meo; et ego diligam eum, et manifestabo me ipsum illi (Id. XIV, 21). Hoc Judaeus impius non videbit. Tolletur enim impius, ne videat claritatem Dei (Isai XXVI, 10, sec. LXX).
I readily acknowledge: All flesh shall see the salvation of God. They say that this means, All flesh shall see the Christ of God. But Christ was seen also in the flesh, not indeed in mortal flesh, if that spiritual transformation is still to be called flesh; for He Himself too after the resurrection spoke thus to those who were seeing and touching Him: "Handle, and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see Me to have" (Luke 24:39). He will be seen thus too: not only has He been seen, but He will also be seen. And perhaps then what was said, all flesh, will be fulfilled more perfectly. For now flesh has seen Him, but not all flesh: but then, when He comes in judgement with His angels to judge the living and the dead, when all who are in the tombs hear His voice, and some come forth to the resurrection of life, others to the resurrection of judgement (John 5:28–29), they will see the very form which He deigned to take up for us, not only the just but also the unjust, some at the right hand, others at the left; for those also who killed Him shall see Him whom they pierced (John 19:37). Therefore all flesh shall see the salvation of God. A body through a body: for He will come to judge in a true body. But to those placed at the right hand and sent into the kingdom of heaven He will show Himself in the way in which He was already seen in the body: and yet He said, He who loves Me shall be loved by My Father; and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him (John 14:21). This the impious Jew will not see. For the impious shall be taken away, lest he see the brightness of God (Isa. 26:10, according to the LXX).
CAPUT XVIII. — 17. Simeon hic oculis vidit salutare Dei. Visibilis Christus in judicio fu⟨t⟩uro. Simeon justus vidit eum et corde, quia cognovit infantem; et oculis vidit, quia portavit infantem. Utroque modo videns eum, agnoscens Dei Filium, et amplectens de Virgine procreatum: «Nunc dimittis, inquit, Domine, servum tuum in pace, quoniam viderunt oculi mei salutare tuum» (Luc. II, 25 30). Videte quid dixerit. Tenebatur enim quousque et oculis videret, quem fide cernebat. Corpus parvulum accepit, corpus amplexus est; corpus videndo, id est, Dominum in carne cernendo ait, Viderunt oculi mei salutare tuum. Unde scis, ne sic videat omnis caro salutare Dei? ne autem desperemus eum in ea forma venturum ad judicium, quam pro nobis accepit, non in qua semper aequalis Patri permansit; audiamus et hinc vocem Angelorum. Ante oculos discipulorum suorum cum ferretur in coelum, et illi attenderent, cumque corde desideratum aspectu deducerent, audierunt ab Angelis: «Viri Galilaei, quid statis aspicientes in coelum? Hic Jesus qui acceptus est a vobis, sic veniet quomodo vidistis eum euntem in coelum» (Act. I, 11). Sic ergo, sic veniet, quomodo abscessit in coelum. Visibilis veniet ad judicium; quia visibilis abscessit in coelum. Nam si visibilis abscessit et invisibilis veniet, quomodo sic veniet? Si autem sic veniet, visibilis ergo veniet; et videbit omnis caro salutare Dei.
Chapter XVIII. — 17. Simeon here saw the salvation of God with his eyes. Christ visible at the future judgement. The just Simeon saw Him both with the heart, because he recognized the infant; and with the eyes, because he carried the infant. Seeing Him in both ways, acknowledging the Son of God, and embracing Him begotten of the Virgin, he said: "Now Thou dost dismiss Thy servant, O Lord, in peace, for my eyes have seen Thy salvation" (Luke 2:29–30). See what he said. For he was held back until he should see with his eyes also Him whom he discerned by faith. He received a little body, he embraced a body; seeing a body, that is, discerning the Lord in the flesh, he said, My eyes have seen Thy salvation. Whence do you know that all flesh may not see the salvation of God in this way? But lest we despair that He will come to judgement in that form which He took for us, not in that in which He has always remained equal to the Father, let us hear on this point also the voice of the angels. When He was being carried into heaven before the eyes of His disciples, and they were watching intently, and were following with their gaze Him whom they longed for in their heart, they heard from the angels: "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you, will come in the same way as you saw Him going into heaven" (Acts 1:11). So then, so He will come, in the way in which He departed into heaven. Visible He will come to judgement; because visible He departed into heaven. For if He departed visible and will come invisible, how will He come in the same way? But if He will come in the same way, then He will come visible; and all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
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Colbertinus Ms., in uno eodem corpore venit judicandus, veniet judicaturus.

The Colbertine manuscript: "in one and the same body he came to be judged, he will come to judge."

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Corrected against [the manuscripts] cl. ch. d. gr. m. and against the editions of Ulimmerius, Paris and Louvain.

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