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Augustinus, In Joannis Evangelium tractatus XXXVI-XLV

Tractate XXXVIII

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ille exspectabat, non fatalem, sed opportunam et voluntariam : ut prius omnia complerentur, quae ante passionem ipsius compleri oportebat. Nam quomodo sub fati necessitate positus erat, qui alio loco dixit : Potestatem habeo ponendi animam meam, et potestatem habeo iterum sumendi eam : nemo tollit eam a me, sed ego ipse pono eam a me, et iterum sumo eam (Joan. X, 18)? Ostendit hanc potestatem, quando eum Judaei quaerebant. Quem quaeritis, inquit? Et illi : Jesum. Et ille : Ego sum. Qua voce audita, redierunt retro et ceciderunt (Id. XVIII, 4-6).
He was awaiting, not a fated [hour], but a fitting and voluntary one: so that first all things might be fulfilled which had to be fulfilled before His passion. For how was He placed under the necessity of fate, Who said in another place: I have power to lay down My life, and I have power to take it up again: no one takes it from Me, but I Myself lay it down from Me, and I take it up again (John 10:18)? He showed this power when the Jews were seeking Him. Whom do you seek? He said. And they: Jesus. And He: I am He. When that voice was heard, they went backwards and fell (John 18:4–6).
10. Dicit aliquis, Si haec in illo potestas erat, quare, cum Judaei insultarent pendenti et dicerent, Si Filius Dei est, descendat de cruce (Matth. XXVII, 40), non descendit, ut eis suam potestatem descendendo monstraret? Quia patientiam docebat, ideo potentiam differebat. Si enim quasi commotus ad eorum verba descenderet, victus conviciorum dolore putaretur. Prorsus non descendit, fixus permansit, quando vellet abscessurus. N⟨a⟩m quid ei magnum fuit de cruce descendere, qui potuit de sepulcro resurgere? Intelligamus ergo nos quibus hoc ministratum est, potentiam Domini nostri Jesu Christi occultam tunc, manifestam futuram in judicio : de quo dictum est, Deus manifestus veniet, Deus noster et non silebit (Psal. XLIX, 3). Quid est, manifestus veniet? Quia venit occultus, veniet manifestus Deus noster, hoc est C⟨h⟩ristus. Et non silebit : quid est, non silebit? Quia primo siluit. Ubi siluit? Quando judicatus est; ut etiam hoc impleretur, quod et propheta praedixerat, Sicut ovis ad immolandum ductus est, et sicut agnus coram tondente se sine voce, sic non aperuit os su⟨u⟩m (Isai. LIII, 7). Si ergo pati nollet, non pateretur; si non pateretur, sanguis ille non funderetur; si sanguis ille non funderetur, mundus non redimeretur. Agamus itaque gratias et potestati divinitatis, et miserationi infirmitatis ejus : et de occulta potentia quam Judaei non noverant, unde illis modo dictum est, Neque me nostis, neque Patrem meum; et de carne suscepta quam Judaei noverant, et cujus patriam sciebant; unde illis alio loco dixit, Et me nostis, et unde sim nostis (Joan. VII, 28). Utrumque noverimus in Christo; et unde aequalis est Patri, et unde illo major est Pater. Illud Verbum est, illud caro; illud Deus est, illud homo : sed unus est Christus Deus et homo.
10. Someone says: If this power was in Him, why, when the Jews mocked Him as He hung and said, If He is the Son of God, let Him come down from the cross (Matt. 27:40), did He not come down, so as to show them His power by coming down? Because He was teaching patience, therefore He deferred power. For if He had come down as though stirred by their words, He would have been thought overcome by the pain of their taunts. He did not come down at all; He remained fixed, intending to depart when He willed. For what great thing was it for Him to come down from the cross, Who was able to rise again from the tomb? Let us then, to whom this has been ministered, understand that the power of our Lord Jesus Christ was hidden then, and will be manifest in the judgement: of which it was said, God will come manifest, our God, and He will not keep silent (Ps. 49:3). What is, He will come manifest? Because He came hidden, our God will come manifest, that is, Christ. And He will not keep silent: what is, He will not keep silent? Because at first He kept silent. Where did He keep silent? When He was judged; so that this too might be fulfilled, which the prophet had also foretold, As a sheep He was led to be sacrificed, and as a lamb before its shearer without a voice, so He did not open His mouth (Isa. 53:7). If, then, He had not willed to suffer, He would not have suffered; if He had not suffered, that blood would not have been shed; if that blood had not been shed, the world would not have been redeemed. Let us therefore give thanks both to the power of His divinity and to the compassion of His weakness: both for the hidden power which the Jews did not know, whence it was said to them just now, You know neither Me nor My Father; and for the flesh He took up, which the Jews did know, and whose homeland they knew; whence He said to them in another place, You both know Me, and you know whence I am (John 7:28). Let us know both in Christ: both whereby He is equal to the Father, and whereby the Father is greater than He. The one is the Word, the other flesh; the one is God, the other man: but Christ is one, God and man.
TRACTATUS XXXVIII.
Tractate 38.
Ab eo quod scriptum est, Dixit ergo eis Jesus : Ego vado, et quaeretis me; usque ad id, Dixit eis Jesus : Principium, quia et loquor vobis. Cap. VIII, ỳ. 21-25.
From what is written, Jesus therefore said to them: I go, and you will seek Me; as far as this, Jesus said to them: The Beginning, Who also speak to you. Chapter 8, verses 21-25.
1. Lectio sancti Evangelii quae praecessit hodiernam, ita concluserat, quia locutus est docens in gazophylacio Dominus, quae voluit, et quae audistis : et nemo opprehendit eum, quia nondum venerat hora ejus (Joan. VIII, 20). Hinc disputatum est dominico die, quod ipse donare dignatus est. Intimavimus Charitati vestrae quare dictum sit, Nondum venerat hora
1. The reading of the holy Gospel which preceded today's had concluded thus: that the Lord spoke, teaching in the treasury, what He willed, and what you have heard: and no one seized Him, because His hour had not yet come (John 8:20). On this a discourse was given on the Lord's day, as He Himself deigned to grant. We made known to your Charity why it was said, His hour had not yet come
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ejus; ne positum Christum sub aliqua necessitate fatali ulla impietas auderet improbe suspicari. Nondum enim venerat hora qua ex ordine suo, secundum ea quae praedicta sunt de illo, non mori cogeretur invitus, sed occideretur paratus.
His; so that no impiety should dare wickedly to suspect that Christ was placed under any fatal necessity. For the hour had not yet come in which, in its own order, according to the things that were foretold of Him, He would not be compelled to die unwilling, but would be slain ready.
2. Modo autem de ipsa passione sua, quae posita erat non in ejus necessitate, sed potestate, locutus est Judaeis dicens: Ego vado. Christo enim Domino mors profectio fuit illo unde venerat, et unde non discesserat. Ego, inquit, vado, et quaeretis me: non desiderio, sed odio. Nam illum posteaquam abscessit ab oculis hominum, inquisierunt et qui oderant et qui amabant: illi persequendo, illi habere cupiendo. In Psalmis ait ipse Dominus per prophetam, Periit fuga a me, et non est qui requirat animam meam (Psal. CXLI, 5): et iterum ait alio loco in Psalmo, Confundantur et revereantur requirentes animam meam (Psal. XXXIX, 15). Culpavit qui non requirerent, damnavit qui requirerent. Malum est enim non quaerere animam Christi, sed quomodo eam quaesierunt discipuli; et malum est quaerere animam Christi, sed quomodo eam Judaei quaesierunt: illi enim ut haberent, isti ut perderent. Denique isti quia sic quaerebant more malo, corde perverso, quid secutus adjunxit? Quaeretis me, et, ne putetis quia bene me quaeretis, in peccato vestro moriemini. Hoc est Christum male quaerere, in peccato suo mori: hoc est illum odisse, per quem posset solum salvus esse. Cum enim homines quorum spes in Deo est, non debeant mala reddere nec pro malis, reddebant isti mala pro bonis. Praenuntiavit ergo illis Dominus, dixitque sententiam praescius, quod in suo peccato morerentur. Deinde adjungit: Quo ego vado, vos non potestis venire. Hoc et discipulis alio loco dixit; nec tamen eis dixit, In peccato vestro moriemini. Quid autem dixit? Quod et istis: Quo ego vado, vos venire non potestis (Joan. XIII, 33). Non abstulit spem, sed praedixit dilationem. Quando enim hoc discipulis Dominus loquebatur, tunc non poterant venire quo ille ibat, sed postea venturi erant: isti autem nunquam, quibus praescius dixit, In peccato vestro moriemini.
2. But now concerning His very passion, which was placed not in His necessity but in His power, He spoke to the Jews, saying: I go. For to Christ the Lord death was a departure to that place whence He had come, and whence He had not withdrawn. I go, He says, and you will seek Me: not with longing, but with hatred. For after He withdrew from the eyes of men, both those who hated Him and those who loved Him sought Him: the former by persecuting, the latter by desiring to have Him. In the Psalms the Lord Himself says through the prophet, Flight has perished from Me, and there is none who seeks after My soul (Ps. 141:5); and again He says in another place in a Psalm, Let them be confounded and put to shame who seek after My soul (Ps. 39:15). He blamed those who did not seek, He condemned those who sought. For it is evil not to seek the soul of Christ, but in the way the disciples sought it; and it is evil to seek the soul of Christ, but in the way the Jews sought it: for the former sought in order to have, the latter in order to destroy. In short, since these were seeking in such a way, with evil manner, with perverse heart, what did He add next? You will seek Me, and, lest you think that you will seek Me well, you will die in your sin. This is to seek Christ ill, to die in one's sin: this is to hate Him through Whom alone one could be saved. For whereas men whose hope is in God ought not to render evil even for evil, these were rendering evil for good. The Lord therefore foretold to them, and foreknowing pronounced the sentence, that they would die in their sin. Then He adds: Whither I go, you cannot come. This He said to the disciples also in another place; and yet He did not say to them, You will die in your sin. But what did He say? What He said to these too: Whither I go, you cannot come (John 13:33). He did not take away hope, but foretold delay. For when the Lord was saying this to the disciples, at that time they could not come whither He was going, but afterwards they were going to come: but these never, to whom foreknowing He said, You will die in your sin.
3. His autem auditis verbis, quomodo solent carnea cogitantes, et secundum carnem judicantes, et totum carnaliter audientes atque sapientes, dixerunt: Numquid interficiet semetipsum; quia dixit, Quo ego vado, vos non potestis venire? Stulta verba, et omnino insipientiae plena. Quid enim? non poterant illo venire quo ille perrexisset, si interficeret semetipsum? Numquid ipsi non erant morituri? Quid est ergo, Numquid interficiet semetipsum; quia dixit, Quo ego vado, vos non potes⟨t⟩is venire? Si de morte hominis diceret, quis homo non moritur? Ergo quo ego vado dixit, non cum itur ad mortem, sed quo ibat ipse post mortem. Illi itaque non intelligentes, ista responderunt.
3. Now when these words were heard, as those are wont to do who think fleshly things, and judge according to the flesh, and hear and savour everything carnally, they said: Will He kill Himself, since He said, Whither I go, you cannot come? Foolish words, and altogether full of senselessness. For what? Could they not come thither whither He had gone, if He killed Himself? Were they themselves not going to die? What then is, Will He kill Himself, since He said, Whither I go, you cannot come? If He were speaking of the death of man, what man does not die? Therefore He said whither I go, not when one goes to death, but whither He Himself was going after death. They, then, not understanding, made this reply.
4. Et Dominus ad eos qui terram sapiebant, quid ait? Et dicebat eis: Vos de deorsum estis. Ideo terram sapitis, quia sicut serpentes terram manducatis. Quid
4. And what does the Lord say to those who savoured the earth? And He said to them: You are from beneath. Therefore you savour the earth, because like serpents you eat earth. What
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Abest, nec, ab omnibus Mss.

nec ("nor") is missing from all the manuscripts.

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Aliquot Mss., non quo.

Some manuscripts read non quo ("not where").

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est, terram manducatis? Terrenis pascimini, terrenis delectamini, terrenis inhiatis, sursum cor non habetis. Vos de deorsum estis: ego de supernis sum. Vos de mundo hoc estis: ego non sum de hoc mundo. Quomodo enim erat de mundo, per quem factus est mundus? Omnes de mundo post mundum; quia prius mundus, et sic homo de mundo: prius autem Christus, deinde mundus; quoniam ante mundum Christus, ante Christum nihil: quia in principio erat Verbum; omnia per ipsum facta sunt (Joan. I, 1, 3). Sic ergo erat ille de supernis. De quibus supernis? De aere? Absit: ibi et aves volitant. De coelo quod videmus? Et hoc absit; ibi et stellae et sol et luna circumeunt. De Angelis? Neque hoc intelligatis: per illum et Angeli facti sunt, per quem omnia facta sunt. De quibus ergo supernis Christus? Ab ipso Patre. Nihil illo Deo superius, qui Verbum genuit aequale sibi, coaeternum sibi, unigenitum, sine tempore, per quem conderet tempora. Sic ergo accipe Christum de supernis, ut exced⟨a⟩s cogitatione tua omne quod factum est; universam omnino creaturam, omne corpus, omnem conditum spiritum, omnem rem quoquo modo mutabilem: totum excede, sicut excessit Joannes, ut contingeret, In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum.
is it, that you eat earth? You are fed on earthly things, you delight in earthly things, you gape after earthly things, you do not have the heart lifted up. You are from beneath: I am from above. You are of this world: I am not of this world. For how was He of the world, through Whom the world was made? All are of the world after the world; for first the world, and so man of the world: but first Christ, then the world; since before the world was Christ, before Christ nothing: for in the beginning was the Word; all things were made through Him (John 1:1, 3). Thus, then, was He from above. From what things above? From the air? Far from it: there the birds also fly. From the sky which we see? Far from it as well; there the stars and the sun and the moon go round. From the angels? Do not understand this either: through Him the angels too were made, through Whom all things were made. From what things above, then, is Christ? From the Father Himself. Nothing is higher than that God, Who begot the Word equal to Himself, co-eternal with Himself, only-begotten, without time, through Whom He might found times. Thus, then, take Christ as from above, so that in your thought you go beyond all that has been made; the whole of creation altogether, every body, every created spirit, every thing in any way changeable: go beyond the whole, as John went beyond, so that he might attain to: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
5. Ego ergo, inquit, de supernis sum. Vos de hoc mundo estis: ego non sum de hoc mundo. Dixi ergo vobis quia moriemini in peccatis vestris. Exposuit nobis, fratres, quid intelligi voluerit, Vos de hoc mundo estis. Ideo quippe dixit, Vos de hoc mundo estis, quia pecc⟨a⟩tores erant, quia iniqui erant, quia infideles erant, quia terrena sapiebant. Nam quid vobis videtur de sanctis Apostolis? Quantum intererat inter Judaeos et Apostolos? Quantum inter tenebras et lucem, quantum inter fidem et infidelitatem, quantum inter pietatem et impietatem, quantum inter spem et desperationem, quantum inter charitatem et cupiditatem: multum ergo intererat. Quid ergo? quia tantum intererat, Apostoli de mundo non erant? Si cogites quomodo nati sint, et unde venerint; quia omnes ex Adam venerant, de hoc mundo erant. Sed quid eis ait ipse Domi⟨n⟩us? Ego vos de mundo elegi (Id. XV, 19). Qui ergo de mundo erant, facti sunt non de mundo, et pertinere coeperunt ad eum per quem factus est mundus⟨.⟩ Isti autem remanserunt esse de mundo, quibus dictum est, Moriemini in peccatis vestris.
5. I, then, He says, am from above. You are of this world: I am not of this world. I said therefore to you that you will die in your sins. He has explained to us, brethren, what He wished to be understood by You are of this world. For He said You are of this world for this reason, that they were sinners, that they were wicked, that they were unbelieving, that they savoured earthly things. For what do you think of the holy Apostles? How great a difference was there between the Jews and the Apostles? As great as between darkness and light, as great as between faith and unbelief, as great as between piety and impiety, as great as between hope and despair, as great as between charity and cupidity: there was therefore a great difference. What then? Because there was so great a difference, were the Apostles not of the world? If you consider how they were born, and whence they came, since all had come from Adam, they were of this world. But what does the Lord Himself say to them? I have chosen you out of the world (John 15:19). Those, then, who were of the world were made not of the world, and began to belong to Him through Whom the world was made. But these remained of the world, to whom it was said, You will die in your sins.
6. Nemo ergo dicat, fratres, De hoc mundo non sum. Quisquis es homo, de hoc mundo es: sed venit ad te qui fecit mundum, et liberavit te de hoc mundo. Si delectat te mundus, semper vis esse immundus; si autem jam non te delectat hic mundus, jam tu es mundus. Veruntamen si per aliquam infirmitatem adhuc te delectat mundus, habitet in te qui mundat, et eris mundus. Si autem fueris mundus, non remanebis in mundo; nec audies quod audierunt Judaei, Moriemini in peccatis vestris. Omnes enim cum peccato nati sumus; omnes vivendo ad id quod nati eramus
6. Let no one, then, say, brethren, I am not of this world. Whoever you are, O man, you are of this world: but He Who made the world has come to you, and has freed you from this world. If the world [mundus] delights you, you wish always to be unclean [immundus]; but if this world no longer delights you, you are now clean [mundus]. Nevertheless, if through some weakness the world still delights you, let Him Who cleanses dwell in you, and you will be clean. But if you have been made clean, you will not remain in the world; nor will you hear what the Jews heard, You will die in your sins. For we were all born with sin; all of us, by living, to that with which we had been born
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Mss., Ego vos de hoc mundo elegi.

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addidimus, magisque de mundo facti sumus, quam tunc quando de parentibus nostris nati sumus. Et ubi essemus, si ille non veniret, qui non habebat omnino peccatum, ut solveret omne peccatum? In quem Judaei quia non credebant, merito audierunt, Moriemini in peccatis vestris: quia non habere peccatum nullo modo potuistis, qui cum peccato nati estis, sed tamen si in me, inquit, credideritis, cum peccato quidem nati estis, sed in peccato vestro morituri non estis. Tota ergo infelicitas Judaeorum ipsa erat, non, peccatum habere, sed in peccatis mori. Hoc est quod debet fugere omnis christianus: propter hoc ad Baptismum curritur; propter hoc qui aegritudine vel aliunde periclitantur, sibi desiderant subveniri; propter hoc etiam sugens parvulus a matre piis manibus ad Ecclesiam fertur, ne sine Baptismo exeat, et in peccato quo natus est moriatur. Infelicissima conditio, misera sors istorum, qui de ore veridico audierunt, In peccatis vestris moriemini.
we added, and we became more of the world than we were then, when we were born of our parents. And where would we be, if He had not come Who had no sin at all, to loose all sin? Because the Jews did not believe in Him, they deservedly heard, You will die in your sins: because you could in no way be without sin, you who were born with sin; but nevertheless, He says, if you believe in Me, you were indeed born with sin, but you will not die in your sin. So the whole misfortune of the Jews was this: not to have sin, but to die in sins. This is what every Christian ought to flee: for this reason people run to Baptism; for this reason those who are in danger through sickness or from some other cause desire to be helped; for this reason too the suckling infant is carried by its mother in pious hands to the Church, lest it depart without Baptism and die in the sin in which it was born. Most unhappy the condition, wretched the lot of those who heard from the truthful mouth, In your sins you will die.
7. Unde tamen hoc eis contingat, exponit: Si enim non credideritis quia ego sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris. Credo, fratres, in illa multitudine quae Dominum audiebat, et eos fuisse qui credituri erant. Quasi autem in omnes processerat severissima illa sententia, In peccato vestro moriemini; ac per hoc et illis qui credituri erant, spes erat ablata: illi saeviebant, illi timebant; imo non timebant, sed jam desperabant. Revocavit eos in spem; adjunxit enim, Si non credideritis quia ego sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris. Ergo si credideritis quia ego sum, non moriemini in peccatis vestris. Reddita est spes desperantibus, excitatio facta est dormientibus, cordibus evigilaverunt: inde plurimi crediderunt, sicut Evangelii ipsius consequentia testantur. Erant enim illic membra Christi, quae nondum adhaeserant corpori Christi: et in illo populo a quo crucifixus est, a quo in ligno suspensus est, a quo pendens irrisus est, a quo lancea vulneratus est, a quo felle et aceto potatus est, erant membra Christi, pro quibus dixit, Pater, ignosce illis, quia nesciunt quid faciunt. Quid autem converso non ignoscitur, si fusus Christi sanguis ignoscitur? Quis homicida desperet, si in spem redditus est a quo etiam Christus occisus est? Crediderunt inde multi; donatus est eis sanguis Christi, ut magis eum biberent quo liberarentur, quam rei de illo effuso tenerentur: quis desperet? Et si in cruce latro salvatus est, ante paululum homicida, post paululum accusatus, convictus, damnatus, suspensus, liberatus; noli mirari. Ubi convictus, ibi damnatus: sed ibi liberatus, ubi mutatus (Luc. XXIII, 34-43). In hoc ergo populo cui Dominus loquebatur, erant qui in peccato suo fuerant morituri: erant etiam qui in ipsum qui loquebatur, fuerant credituri, et ab omni peccato liberandi.
7. Yet whence this befalls them, He explains: For if you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins. I believe, brothers, that in that multitude which was listening to the Lord there were also those who were going to believe. But it was as though that most severe sentence had gone forth against all, In your sin you will die; and by this, hope had been taken away even from those who were going to believe: those were raging, these were afraid; nay rather, they were not afraid, but were already in despair. He called them back to hope; for He added, If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins. Therefore if you believe that I am, you will not die in your sins. Hope was given back to the despairing, an awakening was made for the sleeping, they woke up in their hearts: from then on very many believed, as the sequel of the Gospel itself testifies. For there were members of Christ there, who had not yet clung to the body of Christ: and in that people by whom He was crucified, by whom He was hung on the tree, by whom He was mocked as He hung, by whom He was wounded with the lance, by whom He was given gall and vinegar to drink, there were members of Christ, for whom He said, Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do. But what is not forgiven to one who is converted, if the shed blood of Christ is forgiven? What murderer should despair, if he was restored to hope by whom even Christ was slain? Many believed from then on; the blood of Christ was given to them, so that they might rather drink it, by which they would be set free, than be held guilty of having shed it: who should despair? And if the robber on the cross was saved, a little before a murderer, a little after accused, convicted, condemned, hung, set free; do not wonder. Where convicted, there condemned: but there set free, where changed (Luke 23:34–43). In this people, then, to whom the Lord was speaking, there were those who were going to die in their sin: there were also those who were going to believe in Him Who was speaking, and to be set free from all sin.
8. Tamen hoc attende quod ait Dominus Christus: Si non credideritis quia ego sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris. Quid est, Si non credideritis quia ego sum? Ego sum, quid? Nihil addidit; et quia nihil addidit, multum est quod commendavit. Exspectabitur
8. Yet pay attention to this which the Lord Christ says: If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins. What is, If you do not believe that I am? I am, what? He added nothing; and because He added nothing, what He commended is great. For it was expected
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Mss., qui non habebat peccatum ; praetermisso, omnino.

The manuscripts read qui non habebat peccatum ("who had no sin"), leaving out omnino ("at all").

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enim ut diceret quid esset, nec tamen dixit. Quid exspectabatur ut diceret? Forte, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum Christus; nisi credideritis quia ego sum Dei Filius; nisi credideritis quia ego sum Verbum Patris; nisi credideritis quia ego sum conditor mundi; nisi credideritis quia ego sum hominis formator et reformator, creator et recreator, factor et refactor: nisi hoc credideritis quia ego sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris. Multum est quod ait ipsum, Ego sum: quia sic dixerat et Deus Moysi, Ego sum qui sum. Quis digne eloquatur quid sit, sum? Mittebat Deus per angelum suum, servum suum Moysen ad liberandum ex Aegypto populum suum (legistis quod audistis, et nostis; commemoro tamen): mittebat trementem; excusantem, sed obedientem. Cum ergo excusaret, ait Deo, quem loqui in angelo intelligebat: Si dixerit mihi populus, Et quis est Deus qui misit te, quid eis dicam? Et Dominus ad eum, Ego sum qui sum: et repetivit, Dices filiis Israel, Qui est, misit me ad vos. Non ait et ibi, Ego sum Deus; aut, Ego sum mundi fabricator; aut, Ego sum omnium rerum creator; aut, Ego sum ipsius populi liberandi propagator: sed hoc tantum, Ego sum qui sum; et, Dices filiis Israel, Qui est; non addidit, Qui est Deus vester, qui est Deus patrum vestrorum, sed tantum hoc dixit, Qui est, misit me ad vos. Forte multum erat et ad ipsum Moysen, sicut multum est et ad nos, et multo magis ad nos, intelligere quid dictum sit, Ego sum qui sum; et, Qui est, misit me ad vos. Et si forte caperet Moyses, illi ad quos mittebatur quando caperent? Distulit ergo Dominus quod capere homo non posset, et addidit quod capere posset: adjunxit enim et ait, Ego sum Deus Abraham, et Deus Isaac, et Deus Jacob (Exod. III, 13 15). Hoc potes capere: Nam Ego sum qui sum, quae mens potest capere?
that He would say what He was, and yet He did not say it. What was it expected that He would say? Perhaps, Unless you believe that I am the Christ; unless you believe that I am the Son of God; unless you believe that I am the Word of the Father; unless you believe that I am the founder of the world; unless you believe that I am the former and re-former of man, the creator and re-creator, the maker and re-maker: unless you believe this, that I am, you will die in your sins. It is a great thing that He says just this, I am: for so God had also said to Moses, I am Who am. Who could worthily express what "am" is? God was sending His servant Moses through His angel to set His people free from Egypt (you have read what you have heard, and you know it; yet I recall it): He was sending him trembling; making excuses, but obedient. When therefore he was making excuses, he said to God, Whom he understood to be speaking in the angel: If the people say to me, And who is the God Who sent you, what shall I say to them? And the Lord to him, I am Who am: and He repeated, You shall say to the children of Israel, He Who is has sent me to you. Not even there does He say, I am God; or, I am the fashioner of the world; or, I am the creator of all things; or, I am the propagator of this very people that is to be set free: but only this, I am Who am; and, You shall say to the children of Israel, He Who is; He did not add, He Who is your God, Who is the God of your fathers, but He said only this, He Who is has sent me to you. Perhaps it was a great thing even for Moses himself, as it is a great thing for us too, and much more so for us, to understand what was meant by I am Who am; and, He Who is has sent me to you. And even if Moses perhaps grasped it, when would those to whom he was being sent grasp it? So the Lord put off what man could not grasp, and added what he could grasp: for He went on and said, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob (Exod. 3:13–15). This you can grasp: for I am Who am, what mind can grasp?
9. Quid ergo nos? audebimusne aliquid dicere ex hoc quod dictum est, Ego sum qui sum: vel potius ex hoc quod Dominum dicere audistis, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris? Itane his viribus meis tantillis et pene nullis, audebo disputare quid sit quod ait Dominus Christus, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum? Audebo ipsum Dominum interrogare: audite me interrogantem potius quam disputantem, magis quaerentem quam praesumentem, potius discentem quam docentem, et certe in me vel per me etiam vos interrogate. Praesto est etiam ipse Dominus qui ubique est, audiat interrogandi affectum, et intelligendi praestet effectum. Nam ego quibus verbis, et si forte aliquid capio, perducere possum quod capio ad corda vestra? Quisnam sufficit sonus? quae suppetit eloquentia? quae ⟨v⟩ires intelligendi? quae facultas proferendi?
9. What then of us? Shall we dare to say anything from what was said, I am Who am: or rather from what you have heard the Lord say, Unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins? Shall I, with these strengths of mine, so slight and almost nothing, dare to discuss what it is that the Lord Christ says, Unless you believe that I am? I will dare to question the Lord Himself: hear me questioning rather than discussing, seeking rather than presuming, learning rather than teaching, and assuredly you too, in me or through me, ask questions. The Lord Himself also is present, Who is everywhere; may He hear the desire of the questioning, and grant the effect of understanding. For with what words, even if perhaps I grasp something, can I convey what I grasp to your hearts? What sound is sufficient? What eloquence is at hand? What powers of understanding? What capacity of bringing it forth?
10. Dicam ergo Domino nostro Jesu Christo, dicam, et audiat me. Credo praesentem, omnino non dubito; ipse enim dixit, Ecce ego vobiscum sum usque in consummationem saeculi (Matth. XXVIII, 20) O Domine
10. I will speak, then, to our Lord Jesus Christ, I will speak, and may He hear me. I believe Him present, I do not doubt it at all; for He Himself said, Behold, I am with you even to the consummation of the age (Matt. 28:20) O Lord
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(1) ‹anchor: not visible in the page-foot image› · call in col 1679 (call above the rendered strip)

Sic Er. Lugd. Ven. Lov. : Multum est quod ait ipse, Ego sum. M.

So the Erasmus, Lyons, Venice and Louvain editions: Multum est quod ait ipse, Ego sum ("It is a great thing that he himself says, I am"). M.

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(2) ‹anchor: et audiat me› · call in col 1679

Apud Er. Lugd. et Ven., audiet me. M.

In the Erasmus, Lyons and Venice editions: audiet me ("he will hear me"). M.

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Deus noster, quid est quod aisti, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum? Quid enim non est eorum quae fecisti? Numquid coelum non est? numquid terra non est? numquid non sunt ea quae in terra et in coelo sunt? numquid homo ipse cui loqueris non est? numquid angelus quem mittis non est? Si omnia sunt haec quae per te facta sunt, quid est quod tibi proprium quiddam tenuisti ipsum esse, quod aliis non dedisti, ut tu solus esses? Nam quomodo audio, Ego sum qui sum; quasi alia non sint? et quomodo audio, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum? Illi enim non erant qui audiebant? Et si peccatores erant, homines erant. Quid ergo facio? Quid sit ipsum esse, dicat cordi, intus dicat, intus loquatur; homo interior audiat, mens capiat vere esse: est enim s⟨e⟩mper eodem modo esse. (Res enim aliqua, quaelibet omnino: quasi coepi disputare, et destiti quaerere; forte quod audivi volo loqui, auditui meo det exsultationem et vestro cum loquor): res enim quaelibet, prorsus qualicumque excellentia, si mutabilis est, non vere est; non enim est ibi verum esse, ubi est et non esse. Quid⟨q⟩uid enim mutari potest, mutatum non est quod erat: si non est quod erat, mors quaedam ibi facta est; peremptum est aliquid ibi quod erat, et non est. Nigredo mortua est in capite albescentis senis, pulchritudo mortua est in corpore fessi et incurvi senis, mortuae sunt vires in corpore languentis, mortua est statio in corpore ambulantis, mortua est ambulatio in corpore stantis, mortua est ambulatio et statio in corpore jacentis, mortua est locutio in li⟨n⟩gua tacentis: quidquid mutatur et est quod non erat, video ibi quamdam vitam in eo quod est, et mortem in eo quod fuit. Denique de mortuo cum dicitur, Ubi est homo ille? respondetur, Fuit. O veritas quae vere es! Nam in omnibus actionibus et motibus nostris, et in omni prorsus agitatione creaturae duo tempora invenio, praeteritum et futurum. Praesens quaero, nihil stat: quod dixi, jam non est; quod dicturus sum, nondum est: quod feci, jam non est; quod facturus sum, nondum est: quod vixi, jam non est; quod victurus sum, nondum est. Praeteritum et futurum invenio in omni motu rerum: in veritate quae manet, praeteritum et futurum non invenio, sed solum praesens, et hoc incorruptibiliter, quod in creatura non est. Discute rerum mutationes, invenies Fuit et Erit: cogita Deum, invenies Est, ubi Fuit et Erit esse non possit. Ut ergo et tu sis, transcende tempus. Sed quis transcendet viribus suis? Levet illuc ille qui Patri dixit, Volo ut ubi ego sum, et ipsi sint mecum. Hoc itaque promittens ne moriamur in peccatis nostris, nihil aliud Dominus Jesus Christus mihi videtur his verbis dixisse, Nisi credideritis quia ego sum: prorsus nihil aliud mihi videtur his verbis dixisse quam hoc, Nisi credideritis quia ego Deus sum, moriemini in peccatis vestris. Bene, Deo gratias, quia dixit, Nisi credideritis: non dixit, Nisi ceperitis. Quis enim hoc capiat? Aut vere, quia ausus sum dicere, et visi estis intelligere, aliquid de tanta ineffabilitate
our God, what is it that Thou saidst, Unless you believe that I am? For which of the things that Thou madest is not? Is heaven not? Is the earth not? Are the things that are on earth and in heaven not? Is man himself, to whom Thou speakest, not? Is the angel whom Thou sendest not? If all these things are, which were made through Thee, what is it that Thou keptest as something proper to Thyself, being itself, which Thou didst not give to others, so that Thou alone shouldst be? For how do I hear, I am who am, as though other things are not? And how do I hear, Unless you believe that I am? For were they not, who were listening? And if they were sinners, they were men. What then am I to do? What being itself is, let Him say to the heart, let Him say it within, let Him speak within; let the inner man hear, let the mind grasp true being: for it is to be always in the same mode. (For a thing, any thing whatever: as it were, I began to argue and I left off inquiring; perhaps what I have heard I wish to speak; may He give joy to my hearing, and to yours when I speak): for any thing whatever, of whatever excellence at all, if it is mutable, does not truly exist; for there is no true being there where there is also not-being. For whatever can be changed, once changed is not what it was: if it is not what it was, a kind of death has taken place there; something that was there has been destroyed, and is not. Blackness has died in the head of an old man growing white, beauty has died in the body of a weary and bent old man, strength has died in the body of one languishing, standing has died in the body of one walking, walking has died in the body of one standing, walking and standing have died in the body of one lying down, speech has died in the tongue of one silent: whatever is changed and is what it was not, I see there a kind of life in that which it is, and death in that which it was. Finally, when it is said of a dead man, Where is that man? the answer is, He was. O Truth, Who truly art! For in all our actions and movements, and in absolutely every agitation of the creature, I find two times, past and future. I seek the present: nothing stands still: what I have said is no longer; what I am going to say is not yet: what I have done is no longer; what I am going to do is not yet: what I have lived is no longer; what I am going to live is not yet. Past and future I find in every movement of things: in the truth that abides I do not find past and future, but only present, and this incorruptibly, which is not so in the creature. Examine the changes of things, you will find Was and Will be: think on God, you will find Is, where Was and Will be cannot be. So then, that you too may be, transcend time. But who will transcend it by his own strength? Let Him lift [us] up there Who said to the Father, I will that where I am, they also may be with Me. Promising this, therefore, that we should not die in our sins, the Lord Jesus Christ seems to me to have said nothing else by these words, Unless you believe that I am: absolutely nothing else does He seem to me to have said by these words than this, Unless you believe that I am God, you will die in your sins. Good, thanks be to God, that He said, Unless you believe: He did not say, Unless you grasp. For who could grasp this? Or truly, because I have dared to say, and you have seemed to understand, something concerning such ineffability
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Lov., et nisi. At editi alii et Mss., visi.

Louvain reads et nisi ("and unless"). But the other editions and the manuscripts read visi ("you seemed").

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