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Augustinus, In Joannis Evangelium tractatus CIII-CXVI

Tractate CVI

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apud Patrem, ad cujus dexteram sedet. Cum ergo videret illius praedestinatae suae clarificationis venisse jam tempus, ut et nunc fieret in redditione, quod fuerat in praedestinatione jam factum, oravit dicens, Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, claritate quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te: tanquam diceret, Claritatem quam habui apud te, id est, illam claritatem quam habui apud te in praedestinatione tua, tempus est ut apud te habeam etiam vivens in dextera tua. Sed quoniam diu nos tenuit hujus discussio quaestionis, alio quae sequuntur sermone tractanda sunt.
dead with the Father, at Whose right hand He sits. When therefore He saw that the time of that predestined glorification of His had now come, so that now also there might come about in the rendering what had already been done in the predestination, He prayed, saying, And now glorify Thou Me, Father, with Thyself, with the glory which I had before the world was, with Thee: as if He were saying, The glory which I had with Thee, that is, that glory which I had with Thee in Thy predestination, it is time that I should have with Thee, living also at Thy right hand. But since the discussion of this question has held us long, the things that follow are to be treated in another sermon.
TRACTATUS CVI.
Tractate 106.
De eo quod Dominus dicit, Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus; usque ad id, Et crediderunt quia tu me misisti. Cap. XVII, ℣. 6-8.
On what the Lord says, I have manifested Thy name to men; as far as this, And they have believed that Thou didst send Me. (John 17:6–8)
1. De his verbis Domini, sicut ipse donaverit, sermone isto disputaturi sumus, quae ita se habent: Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus quos dedisti mihi de mundo. Quod si de his tantum dicit discipulis cum quibus coenavit, et ad quos antequam orare inciperet, tam multa locutus est; non pertinet hoc ad illam clarificationem, sive ut alii interpretati sunt, glorificationem, de qua superius loquebatur, qua Filius clarificat vel glorificat Patrem. Quanta est enim vel qualis gloria, duodecim vel undecim potius innotuisse mortalibus? Si autem quod ait, Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus, quos dedisti mihi de mundo, omnes intelligi voluit, etiam qui in eum fuerant credituri, ad ejus magnam quae futura erat ex omnibus gentibus Ecclesiam pertinentes, de qua in Psalmo canitur, In Ecclesia magna confitebor tibi (Psal. XXXIV, 18); est plane ista clarificatio qua Filius clarificat Patrem, cum ejus nomen notum facit omnibus gentibus, et tam multis generationibus hominum. Et tale est hoc quod ait, Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus, quos dedisti mihi de mundo, quale illud quod paulo ante dixerat, Ego te clarificavi super terram (Joan. XVII, 4); pro tempore futuro et illic et hic praeteritum ponens, sicut qui sciret praedestinatum esse ut id fieret, et ideo fecisse dicens se quod erat sine ulla dubitatione facturus.
1. On these words of the Lord, as He Himself shall grant, we are going to discourse in this sermon, which run thus: I have manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world. Now if He says this only of those disciples with whom He supped, and to whom He spoke so many things before He began to pray, this does not belong to that clarification, or, as others have rendered it, glorification, of which He was speaking above, by which the Son clarifies or glorifies the Father. For how great or of what kind is the glory of having become known to twelve, or rather eleven, mortals? But if by what He says, I have manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world, He wished all to be understood, even those who were going to believe in Him, belonging to His great Church which was to be out of all nations, of which it is sung in the Psalm, In the great Church I will confess to Thee (Ps. 34:18), this is plainly that glorification by which the Son glorifies the Father, when He makes His name known to all nations and to so many generations of men. And this which He says, I have manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world, is of the same kind as what He had said a little before, I have glorified Thee upon the earth (John 17:4): in both places putting the past for the future tense, as one who knew that it was predestined that it should come to pass, and therefore saying that He had done what He was without any doubt going to do.
2. Sed de his qui jam erant discipuli ejus, non de omnibus qui in illum fuerant credituri eum dixisse quod dixit, Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus, quos dedisti mihi de mundo, ea quae sequuntur, credibilius esse demonstrant. Cum enim hoc dixisset, adjunxit: Tui erant, et mihi eos dedisti, et sermonem tuum servaverunt: nunc cognoverunt quia omnia quae dedisti mihi, abs te sunt; quia verba quae dedisti mihi, dedi eis: et ipsi acceperunt, et cognoverunt vere quia a te exivi, et crediderunt quia tu me misisti. Quanquam et haec omnia de futuris omnibus fidelibus dici potuerunt spe jam perfecta, cum adhuc essent futura: sed ut de his solis quos tunc habebat discipulis haec loqui intelligatur, illud magis urget quod paulo post ait, Cum essem cum eis, ego servabam eos in nomine tuo: quos dedisti mihi custodivi, et nemo ex eis periit, nisi filius perditionis,
2. But that He said what He said, I have manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world, of those who were already His disciples, not of all who were going to believe in Him, the words that follow show to be more credible. For when He had said this, He added: They were Thine, and Thou gavest them to Me, and they have kept Thy word: now they have known that all things which Thou gavest Me are from Thee; for the words which Thou gavest Me I have given them: and they have received them, and have known truly that I came forth from Thee, and they have believed that Thou didst send Me. Although all these things too could have been said of all the faithful to come, in hope already accomplished, while they were still in the future: yet that He is understood to speak these things of those disciples alone whom He then had, that presses the more which He says a little after, While I was with them, I kept them in Thy name: those whom Thou gavest Me I have guarded, and none of them has perished, except the son of perdition,
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Footnotes

(1) ‹anchor: spe jam perfecta› · call in col 1908

Sic tres Mss. At cæteri cum editis, specie perfecta.

So three manuscripts. But the rest, with the printed editions, read "specie perfecta" (completed in appearance/in sight).

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ut Scriptura impleatur; Judam significans qui tradidit eum: ex isto quippe duodenario numero Apostolorum solus periit. Deinde subjungit: Nunc autem ad te venio. Unde manifestum est eum de corporali sua dixisse praesentia, Cum essem cum eis, ego servabam eos, veluti jam cum eis ea praesentia non esset. Eo modo enim significare voluit ascensionem suam mox futuram, de qua dixit, Nunc autem ad te venio: iturus utique ad dexteram Patris; unde venturus est ad vivos et mortuos judicandos praesentia itidem corporali, secundum fidei regulam sanamque doctrinam: nam praesentia spirituali cum eis erat utique futurus post ascensionem suam, et cum tota Ecclesia sua in hoc mundo usque in consummationem saeculi (Matth. XXVIII, 20). Non itaque recte intelliguntur de quibus dixerit, Cum essem cum eis, ego servabam illos, nisi hi quos in se credentes servare jam coeperat praesentia corporali, et quos relicturus fuerat absentia corporali, ut eos cum Patre servaret praesentia spirituali. Post vero adjungit et caeteros suos, ubi dicit: Non pro his autem rogo tantum, sed et pro his qui credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me. Ubi manifestius ostendit quod non de omnibus ad eum pertinentibus superius loqueretur, ab eo loco ubi ait, Manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus, quos dedisti mihi; sed de his tantum qui eum, cum illa diceret, audiebant.
that the Scripture might be fulfilled; signifying Judas, who betrayed Him: for out of that number of twelve Apostles he alone perished. Then He adds: But now I come to Thee. From this it is plain that He had spoken of His bodily presence, When I was with them, I kept them, as though that presence were already no longer with them. For in this way He wished to signify His ascension, soon to come, of which He said, But now I come to Thee: being about to go, that is, to the right hand of the Father; whence He is to come to judge the living and the dead, likewise in bodily presence, according to the rule of faith and sound doctrine: for in spiritual presence He was certainly going to be with them after His ascension, and with His whole Church in this world even to the consummation of the age (Matt. 28:20). Therefore those of whom He said, When I was with them, I kept them, are not rightly understood to be any but these, whom, believing in Him, He had already begun to keep by His bodily presence, and whom He was about to leave by His bodily absence, so that He might keep them with the Father by His spiritual presence. But afterwards He adds His others as well, where He says: Not for these only do I ask, but also for those who shall believe in Me through their word. Here He shows more plainly that He was not speaking above of all who belong to Him, from the place where He says, I have manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me; but only of those who were listening to Him when He was saying these things.
3. Ab ipso itaque orationis ejus exordio, ubi sublevatis oculis in coelum, dixit, Pater, venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum, ut Filius tuus clarificet te, usque ad illud quod paulo post ait, Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, claritate quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te; omnes suos volebat intelligi, quibus notum faciendo Patrem, clarificat eum. Cum enim dixisset, ut Filius tuus clarificet te; mox quemadmodum id fieret, demonstravit dicens, Sicut dedisti ei potestatem omnis carnis, ut omne quod dedisti ei, det eis vitam aeternam: haec est autem vita aeterna, ut cognoscant te solum verum Deum, et quem misisti Jesum Christum (Joan. XVII, 1-20). Non enim potest cognitione hominum clarificari Pater, nisi et ille cognoscatur per quem clarificatur, id est, per quem populis innotescit. Haec est glorificatio Patris, quae non circa solos illos Apostolos facta est, sed circa omnes homines fit, quibus suis membris caput est Christus. Neque enim de solis Apostolis potest intelligi, Sicut dedisti ei potestatem omnis carnis, ut omne quod dedisti ei, det eis vitam aeternam; sed utique de omnibus quibus in eum credentibus vita aeterna datur.
3. So from the very opening of His prayer, where, with eyes lifted up to heaven, He said, Father, the hour has come; glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son may glorify Thee, up to what He says a little later, And now glorify Thou Me, Father, with Thyself, with the glory which I had before the world was, with Thee; He wished all His own to be understood, by making the Father known to whom He glorifies Him. For when He had said, that Thy Son may glorify Thee, He at once showed how this would come about, saying, As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that to all that Thou hast given Him He may give eternal life: and this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom Thou hast sent (John 17:1–20). For the Father cannot be glorified by the knowledge of men unless He also is known through Whom He is glorified, that is, through Whom He becomes known to the peoples. This is the glorification of the Father, which was not wrought with respect to those Apostles alone, but is wrought with respect to all men, of whom, as His members, Christ is the head. For it cannot be understood of the Apostles alone, As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that to all that Thou hast given Him He may give eternal life; but certainly of all to whom, believing in Him, eternal life is given.
4. Jam nunc ergo videamus quid de illis, a quibus tunc audiebatur, discipulis suis dicat. Manifestavi, inquit, nomen tuum hominibus quos dedisti mihi. Non ergo noverant Dei nomen, cum essent Judaei? Et ubi est quod legitur, Notus in Judaea Deus; in Israel magnum nomen ejus (Psal. LXXV, 2)? Ergo manifestavi nomen tuum hominibus istis, quos dedisti mihi de mundo, qui me audiunt haec dicentem: non illud nomen tuum quo vocaris Deus, sed illud quo vocaris Pater meus; quod nomen manifestari sine ipsius Filii manifestatione non posset.
4. Now, then, let us see what He says about those disciples of His by whom He was then being heard. I have manifested, He says, Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me. Did they not, then, know the name of God, since they were Jews? And where is what is read, In Judaea God is known; in Israel His name is great (Ps. 75:2)? So: I have manifested Thy name to these men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world, who hear Me saying these things: not that name of Thine by which Thou art called God, but that by which Thou art called My Father; a name which could not be manifested without the manifestation of the Son Himself.
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Nam quod Deus dicitur universae creaturae, etiam omnibus gentibus antequam in Christum crederent, non omni modo esse potuit hoc nomen ignotum. Haec est enim vis verae divinitatis, ut creaturae rationali jam ratione utenti, non omnino ac penitus possit abscondi. Exceptis enim paucis in quibus natura nimium depravata est, universum genus humanum Deum mundi hujus fatetur auctorem. In hoc ergo quod fecit hunc mundum coelo terraque conspicuum, et antequam imbuerentur in fide Christi, notus omnibus gentibus Deus. In hoc autem quod non est injuriis suis cum diis falsis colendus, notus in Judaea Deus. In hoc vero quod Pater est hujus Christi, per quem tollit peccatum mundi, hoc nomen ejus prius occultum omnibus, nunc manifestavit eis quos dedit ei Pater ipse de mundo. Sed quomodo manifestavit, si nondum venit hora de qua superius dixerat, quod veniret hora cum jam non in proverbiis, inquit, loquar vobis, sed palam de Patre meo annuntiabo vobis (Joan. XVI, 25)? An vero annuntiatio manifesta putabitur in proverbiis? Cur ergo dictum est, Palam annuntiabo vobis, nisi quia in proverbiis non est palam? quod autem non in proverbiis occultatur, sed verbis manifestatur, procul dubio palam dicitur. Quomodo ergo manifestavit quod nondum palam dixit? Proinde sic intelligendum est, pro tempore futuro praeteritum positum, quemadmodum illud, Omnia quae audivi a Patre meo, nota feci vobis (Id. XV, 15): quod nondum fecerat, sed loquebatur quasi fecisset, quod immobiliter esse praefixum sciebat ut faceret.
For inasmuch as He is called the God of the whole creation, this name could not have been altogether unknown even to all the nations before they believed in Christ. For such is the power of true divinity that it cannot be wholly and utterly hidden from a rational creature already using its reason. For, apart from a few in whom nature is excessively depraved, the whole human race confesses God as the maker of this world. In this, then, that He made this world, conspicuous with heaven and earth, God was known to all nations even before they were instructed in the faith of Christ. But in this, that He is not to be worshipped, to His own injury, together with false gods, God was known in Judaea. And in this, that He is the Father of this Christ, through Whom He takes away the sin of the world, this name of His, previously hidden from all, He has now manifested to those whom the Father Himself gave Him out of the world. But how did He manifest it, if the hour had not yet come of which He had spoken above, that the hour would come when, He says, I will no longer speak to you in proverbs, but will tell you openly of My Father (John 16:25)? Or will a manifest telling be thought to be in proverbs? Why then was it said, I will tell you openly, unless because what is in proverbs is not open? But what is not hidden in proverbs, but is made manifest in words, is without doubt spoken openly. How then did He manifest what He had not yet spoken openly? Accordingly it is to be understood that the past has been put for the future tense, as in that saying, All things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you (John 15:15): which He had not yet done, but spoke as if He had done it, because He knew that it was immovably fixed beforehand that He would do it.
5. Quid est autem, Quos dedisti mihi de mundo? Dictum est enim de illis quod non essent de mundo. Sed hoc illis regeneratio praestitit, non generatio. Quid est etiam quod sequitur, Tui erant et mihi eos dedisti? An aliquando erant Patris, quando non erant unigeniti Filii ejus; et habuit aliquando Pater aliquid sine Filio? Absit. Verumtamen habuit aliquid aliquando Deus Filius, quod nondum habuit idem ipse homo Filius; quia nondum erat homo factus ex matre, quando tamen habebat universa cum Patre. Quapropter quod dixit, Tui erant, non inde se separavit Deus Filius, sine quo nihil unquam Pater habuit; sed solet ei tribuere omne quod potest, a quo est ipse qui potest. A quo enim habet ut sit, ab illo habet ut possit; et simul utrumque semper habuit, quia nunquam fuit et non potuit. Quocirca quidquid potuit Pater, semper cum illo Filius potuit; quoniam ille qui nunquam fuit et non potuit, nunquam sine Patre fuit, nunquam sine illo Pater fuit. Ac per hoc sicut Pater aeternus omnipotens, ita Filius coaeternus omnipotens; et si omnipotens, utique omnitenens. Id enim potius verbum e verbo interpretamur, si proprie volumus dicere, quod a Graecis dicitur παντοχράτωρ: quod nostri non sic interpretarentur, ut omnipotens dicerent, cum sit παντοχράτωρ omnitenens, nisi tantumdem valere sentirent. Quid ergo unquam habere potuit aeternus omnitenens, quod non simul habuerit coaeternus omnitenens? Quod itaque ait, Et mihi eos dedisti, hominem se accepisse hanc potestatem ut eos
5. But what is meant by, Whom Thou gavest Me out of the world? For it was said of them that they were not of the world. But this was granted them by regeneration, not by generation. What, too, is meant by what follows, Thine they were, and Thou gavest them to Me? Were they at some time the Father's, when they were not His only-begotten Son's; and did the Father at some time have something without the Son? Far from it. Nevertheless God the Son at some time had something which the same Son as man did not yet have; for He had not yet been made man from His mother, when He nevertheless had all things together with the Father. Therefore in saying, Thine they were, God the Son did not thereby separate Himself, without Whom the Father never had anything; but He is accustomed to ascribe all that He can do to Him from Whom He Himself is, Who can do it. For from Whom He has it that He is, from Him He has it that He can; and He has always had both together, because He never was without being able. Wherefore whatever the Father could, the Son always could together with Him; since He Who never was without being able was never without the Father, and the Father was never without Him. And for this reason, just as the Father is eternal and almighty, so the Son is coeternal and almighty; and if almighty, then certainly all-holding. For we render it rather word for word, if we wish to speak properly, what is called by the Greeks pantokrator: which our people would not have rendered thus, so as to say almighty, since pantokrator is all-holding, unless they had felt it to be worth just as much. What then could the eternal All-holding ever have had which the coeternal All-holding did not have at the same time? Since then He says, And Thou gavest them to Me, He shows that as man He received this power, that He should have them
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haberet, ostendit; quoniam qui semper omnipotens fuit, non semper homo fuit. Quamobrem, cum Patri potius tribuisse videatur ut ab eo illos acceperit quoniam ex ipso est quidquid est de quo est; etiam ipse sibi eos dedit, hoc est, cum Patre Deus Christus, homini Christo quod cum Patre non est, homines dedit. Denique qui hoc loco dicit, Tui erant, et mihi eos dedisti, jam superius eisdem discipulis dixerat, Ego vos de mundo el⟨eg⟩i (Joan. XV, 19). Conteratur hic cogitatio carnalis, atque dispereat. De mundo sibi a Patre dicit Filius datos homines quibus a⟨l⟩io loco dicit, Ego vos elegi de mundo. Quos Deus Filius de mundo elegit cum Patre, idem ipse homo Filius de mundo eos accepit a Patre: non enim Pater illos Filio dedisset, nisi elegisset. Ac per hoc Filius sicut non inde separavit Patrem, quando dixit, Ego vos de mundo elegi, quoniam simul eos elegit et Pater: sic non inde separavit et se, quando dixit, Tui erant, quia et ipsius Filii pariter erant. Nunc autem homo idem ipse Filius accepit eos qui non erant ipsius, quia et formam servi accepit Deus idem quae non erat ipsius.
since He Who was always omnipotent was not always man. Wherefore, although He may seem rather to have ascribed to the Father that He received them from Him, since whatever He is, He is from Him of Whom He is; yet He Himself also gave them to Himself, that is, Christ as God with the Father gave men to Christ as man, which with the Father He is not. Finally, He Who in this place says, Thine they were, and Thou gavest them to Me, had already said earlier to the same disciples, I have chosen you out of the world (John 15:19). Let carnal thinking be crushed here and perish. The Son says that men were given to Him by the Father out of the world, to whom in another place He says, I have chosen you out of the world. Those whom God the Son chose out of the world together with the Father, the same Son as man received out of the world from the Father: for the Father would not have given them to the Son, had He not chosen them. And therefore, just as the Son did not thereby separate the Father when He said, I have chosen you out of the world, since the Father also chose them together with Him: so He did not thereby separate Himself either when He said, Thine they were, since they were equally the Son's own as well. But now the same Son as man received those who were not His, because the same God also received the form of a servant, which was not His.
6. Sequitur ac dicit, Et sermonem tuum servaverunt: nunc cognoverunt quia omnia quae dedisti mihi, abs te sunt: id est, cognoverunt quia abs te sum. Simul enim Pater dedit omnia, cum genuit qui haberet omnia. Quia verba, inquit, quae dedisti mihi, dedi eis, et ipsi acceperunt: id est, intellexerunt atque tenuerunt. Tunc enim verbum accipitur, quando mente percipitur. Et cognoverunt, inquit, vere quia a te exivi, et crediderunt quia tu me misisti. Et hic subaudiendum est, vere: quod enim dixit, cognoverunt vere, exponere voluit adjungendo, et crediderunt. Hoc itaque crediderunt vere, quod cognoverunt vere: id enim est a te exivi, quod est, tu me misisti. Cum ergo dixisset, cognoverunt vere, ne quisquam putaret istam cognitionem jam per speciem factam, non per fidem; exponendo addidit, et crediderunt, ut subaudiamus vere, et intelligamus hoc dictum esse, cognoverunt vere, quod est crediderunt vere: non eo modo quem significavit paulo ante, cum dixit, Modo creditis? Venit hora, et jam venit, ut dispergamini unusquisque in propria, et me solum relinquatis (Id. XVI, 31 et 32). Sed crediderunt vere, id est quomodo credendum est, inconcusse, firme, stabiliter, fortiter; non jam in propria redituri, et Christum relicturi. Adhuc ergo discipuli non erant tales, quales eos dicit verbis praeteriti temporis, quasi jam essent, praenuntians quales futuri essent, accepto scilicet Spiritu sancto, qui eos, sicut promissum est, doceret omnia. Quem priusquam acciperent quomodo servaverunt ejus sermonem. quod de illis quasi fecerint, dixit; quando primus eorum ter eum negavit (Matth. XXVI, 69-74), cum ex ore ejus audisset quid futurum esset homini qui eum coram hominibus negavisset (Id. X, 33)? Dedit ergo eis verba sicut dixit, quae dedit ei Pater: sed quando illa non foris in auribus, sed intus in cordibus spiritualiter acceperunt, tunc vere acceperunt, quia tunc vere cognoverunt; vere autem cognoverunt, quia vere crediderunt.
6. He goes on and says, And they have kept Thy word: now they have known that all things which Thou hast given Me are from Thee: that is, they have known that I am from Thee. For the Father gave all things at once, when He begot Him Who should have all things. For the words, He says, which Thou gavest Me, I have given to them, and they have received them: that is, they have understood and held fast. For the word is received then, when it is grasped by the mind. And they have known, He says, truly that I came forth from Thee, and they have believed that Thou didst send Me. Here too truly is to be understood: for what He said, they have known truly, He wished to explain by adding, and they have believed. This therefore they have believed truly, which they have known truly: for I came forth from Thee is the same as Thou didst send Me. When therefore He had said, they have known truly, lest anyone should think that this knowledge had already come about by sight, not by faith, He added by way of explanation, and they have believed, so that we should understand truly, and understand that this was said, they have known truly, which is, they have believed truly: not in the way which He signified a little before, when He said, Do you now believe? The hour is coming, and has now come, that you will be scattered each one to his own, and will leave Me alone (John 16:31–32). But they have believed truly, that is, as one ought to believe, unshakably, firmly, steadfastly, strongly; no longer about to return to their own and abandon Christ. As yet, therefore, the disciples were not such as He describes them with words of the past tense, as though they already were so, foretelling what they would be, namely once they had received the Holy Spirit, Who, as was promised, would teach them all things. Before they received Him, how did they keep His word, which He said of them as though they had done it, when the first of them denied Him three times (Matt. 26:69–74), after he had heard from His mouth what would befall the man who should deny Him before men (Matt. 10:33)? He gave them therefore the words, as He said, which the Father gave Him: but when they received them not outwardly in their ears, but inwardly in their hearts spiritually, then they truly received them, because then they truly knew; and they truly knew because they truly believed.
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  • other: "el⟨eg⟩i" (first instance) and "a⟨l⟩io" have damaged type; "tempo ris" is broken at the line end with no hyphen printed and is set joined as "temporis"; the column begins mid-sentence with "haberet"; a full stop is printed after "sermonem" before lower-case "quod"; no editors' matter and no full-width line in this column